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I like the hard line approach by Tudor. Hopefully it will prevent future incidents by other players. I am certain Lucas is doing this in order to get a transfer, but Depor can't afford the price. If he is doing this to get the price down, I hope Arnesen takes a hard stance on this issue. I am surprised that Pereyra is following Lucas on the same path. I wonder if they became buddies after Lucas returned back. He did not seem like a trouble maker last season.

Konstantinidis has been injured since the end of last season. He has only started full practices only few days ago. I like you lineups pash with only one change. I think Charisis should get a start. He has been great so far.

PAOK players travelling tomorrow to Zagreb for the Europa League game:

PAOK players travelling tomorrow to Zagreb for the Europa LEague game:

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Agree 100%. that was one of the downfalls of the team lasts season. The other question is if these two players are doing this on purpose, so they can leave the team. We know that at least one of them wants to.

Pereyra and Lucas were kicked out of practice today, because they did not pay their 100 Euro fine that they received yesterday from Tudor. Also tomorrow, a 20-man squad that will travel to Croatia will be announced. The remaining players not selected will travel to Greece. it will be interesting to see which group of players will Pereyra and Lucas follow.

Some reports say that Tudor is re-thinking the 3-5-2 formation and might resort to using a 4-2-3-1 formation in this game.

vs MATCHUP: NK Lokomotiva Zagreb - P.A.O.K. Thessaloniki COMPETITION: Europa League ? Qualifying Round 2 ? Leg 1 DATE: 16-July-2015 TIME: 21:00 GR (18:00 GMT, 13:00 CDT, 04:00 AEST next day) CITY/STADIUM: Zagreb - Stadion Kranjceviceva (12,000) REFEREES: Yuri Mozharovsky - Yevhen Khalamendyk, Oleksandr Korniyko (All Ukraine) TELEVISION: Novas Sport 2 (Greece), Arena Sport 1 (Croatia, Sebia, FYROM, Bosnia)

Yeah, I am pretty sure Martens is history, although he did play today and Maduro didn't.

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PAE PAOK has released the list of players for the upcoming Europa League games. Notable absence is Martens. Also missing is the injured Klaus.

Charisis had an exceptional game today. If he works hard, he will become a great player. Mystakidis was good too. On another bright side, Maduro did not play, and apparently his agent is in Holland talking with Arnesen.

Goal by Costa. 4:0 Mistake by Tzavellas and 4:1

Got it right this time my friend. Nice goal.

Charisis scored the goal. Nice header. You should watch the Ukrainian stream pash and listen to the Greek audio on Libero.

pash I think Lucas scored the goal. We are playing quite well today. So far we have not scored on our own goal. I am using this link, which has been superb so far: http://cdn.livetv.sx/webplayer2.php?t=youtube&c=-bfMhaWwRdw〈=en&eid=324610&lid=310128&ci=5&si=1

EPO (that includes a dozen members that are under investigation) has cleared Veroia of wrongdoing in the Olympiakos - Veroia match fixing scandal. Veroia was accused that they fixed the match to end in a 3:0 loss to Olympiakos. Now how you do that without the other team being part of the fix is a big mystery to me. That's why I always believed that nothing would come of this. Now, the ex-owner of Veroia, Arvanitidis is claiming that the whole thing was orchestrated by Melissanidis, the man running AEK. Of note is also the report that Arvanitidis and his son want to take control of Aris. If that happens I am sure EPO will give Aris a straight ticket to the Football League despite the fact that they failed to qualify from the Amateur division.

Somebody is trying to make some kind of a political statement. The way I understand it is that they are calling Kaufmann a m#$%! because he could not shoot straight.

Kaufmann is the person that tried to assassinate Wolfgang Sch?uble, the German Finance Minister. The attempt left Sch?uble paralyzed and in a wheelchair.

The result does not mean anything. It's what the coach and the technical director do as a result of the serious issues that the team has. I am sure that after this pre-season training is done, some players will get the walking papers. One more friendly before the European match. Let's see what happens. The pleasant surprises so far are Pelkas and Charisis. Hopefully we can extend Pelkas's contract.

Veroia was never in trouble. For a game to be fixed with an exact score, you need the participation of both teams. I am sure that there was Olympiakos involvement, but only Veroia was accused of wrongdoing. I did not expect any other outcome.

Major defensive problems. What a joke of a goal the 3rd one by Bochum. Hopefully that's not the Olson we expect to see in the future. Six goals in first half and five scored by PAOK players. I am impressed by Pelkas so far.

He would be a great replacement for the injured Klaus.

Didn't he once say that the only Greek team he would play for is AEP Iraklis? In any case I don't rate him highly. Arnesen can do better to find a replacement for Klaus.