RED SHERIFF

there is very little skibbe can do with the available personal..... Greece has only a handful of creative attacking midfielders....Fortounis, Kone, Fetfa, Ninis...and none of them are in Australia.. There is not much he can do with the squad that we have here.

I hope not...

that sounds like there may be a risk???

I think the rain will make this game a terrible spectacle......Players will be pulling out..

perhaps being a member to western organisations is one reason why Greece is not a total "Latin American' or Balkan style basket case?

up to 90 mm rain is predicted.... I have seen AFL games played in Sydney over the years in deep water. Is it possible the rain will be that heavy today....if so the game may be called off?

the problem is 'Greece's interests' may not serve the interests of the individual? or the ideological interests of many.. Hence why the politicians pander to the lao....and we have the current result... I believe a lot of the politicians have good intentions but get swamped with the perplexity of the problems. and they then become complicit in the disaster

but they have created a system and government they want...by default.... Whether it's a left over from ottoman times or other factors. Greeks do not really appreciate the role of Government..... I think they have been conditioned to 'cut corners'..... sociopolitically Greece is a basket case and by modern western standards essentially ungovernable... They revert to the Che Guevara mindset too easily.......it's a perplexing society in the way they think and in their expectations... If they were too adopt the 'Scandinavian socialist " model....would they really know how to live by it? And how long before they brought it back to a Greek version which would revert to what we have today..

part of the problem with Greeks and part of the reason for today's issues is the very fact that they are suspicious of government and everyone else.. The whole Che Guevara Hellenic style is prevalent and has failed us..

of course EPO are getting a cut.... there is absolutely no way they would come here without a decent fee... it is not in their interests nor the players to come so far without being rewarded.. They would much rather have played a friendly v Latvia or Wales etc..and saved the trip..( and i don;y want to hear blah blah about the diaspora)...if we were playing Wales or Latvia many of the players that are 'unavailable' would be playing....this is a holiday trip.. So its the FFA and promoters who promised them the fee...they are to blame for ticketing...they wanted Greece...Greece did not want them...

1st September Holland and 6th September Russia

Early June is a usually a designated International week... no chance for July - August as clubs are in the midst of pre season...

yep...the blame for the ticket prices lies squarely with FFA and the promoters...this has nothing to do with EPO or greece..

my understandings of FIFA eligibility is that he was eligible to play for greece.. He was born in greece.....what is the issue??

hopefully this wakes him up as a footballer..because he is not osfp quality...

@thrylos G7... it's fine for you to like Serbs on a personal level and if you find affinity with them thru religion or some other reason that is all very good at a personal level.. people are people...and friendships and relationships are important... I have met a handful of Serbs in my life.....and what strikes me is that above all they are Slav and proud of it....they are much closer to Skops than to us......they have a more natural connection.. I work with a Skop and she is very Pro Serb.....she approaches Serbs with open arms and there is a mutual openness and brotherhood... during the time of the Balkan war the odd Serb may have reached out to me for some solace and support... However as the years have gone on, I can say the average Serb in the street that I come across shows no more 'warmth' to me than they would to an Italian or a Pole.... I think a lot of Greeks look out for this 'brotherhood'....the more you look for it..the more you will find it.. a lot of the 'nationalistic political type Greeks' seem to see this more than the 'normal ' greeks... a bit like why certain people see ghosts and spirits and others don't...

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I said something similar to the last few posts last week... but I was howled down because I am a red fan :tdown:

Weather forecast is for up to 35mm of rain on match day.. and when it rains in Sydney it pours... so the game could be an absolute disaster of an event..

so we are missing * (for various reasons) K.Pap, siovas, Manolas, Fortounis, Mitro, Karelis, Kone, Fetfa, Petsos.. + for first game.... Tziolis, Aravidis, Tzavellas, Mandalos, Bakasetas. have I missed anyone??? I'd say 5 first 11 walk up starters...

I don't think Kone made the final cut??? or do you have info that suggests he asked to be excused?? the starting 11 for match 1 looks rather odd to say the least?? ......................karnezis..................... ......................moras........................ ..................sokratis........oikonomou............... toro..................maniatis...............holebas .............lazaros.....samaris.......taxi.......... ..........................vellios.................................... or ..........................kapino............................ toro........moras.........sokratis........staf......... ..........................maniatis......................... lazaros.........samaris............taxi...........holebas ..............................vellios.......................

Greeks have this 'super romantic' notion of being aligned to russia....in some mythical orthodox brotherhood... it's predictable in the anti west rhetoric.... the question I always ask is.... how many of the Eastern European countries that were under Soviet control have a kind word to say about Moscow? we luckily missed out.....too many Greeks are either yearning for 1947 to be rewritten...or just believed all the crap they heard from their fathers and uncles... a good greek will then default to anti Israel talk...followed up by quotes from prophets about The Poli....

this does not make sense???? he played many games for greek u19 and u21 NTs??? How is he not eligible to play for Greece?

why is fortounis not coming?

I was being partly sarcastic... and partly serious.... its not about if these types can become rich and live in affluent suburbs.. they can be used in roles and jobs especially rural areas to stimulate the economy and growth greece needs to stimulate the agricultural sector....... these types of immigrants have been have been useful in many places...