Bananas

I have to agree. The risk Greece is afraid of, is a big risk for Turkey also. Things can escalate, and can be difficult to predict. Ha ha, now that made me laugh.

F*** mate. Ketsbaia was only there for what 2 months ? Maybe Melissanidis is trying to emulate Savvidis, who's "given" PAOK 4 managers in 4 seasons. AEK even won this weekend as well.

Yes, agree 100% if Turkey tried for a "total" war so to speak. But what if they instead just took all the islands close to Turkey and fortified the bejesus out of them, and did this all so quickly Greece couldn't react ? Again my knowledge is not great. Again another hypothetical. I'm sure if we're talking about it, the Greek military has been over it 10,000 times.

Well, let's say in this hypothetical that you are now the PM of Greece, and you have intelligence that definitely proves Turkey wants you to provoke a war, so they can go for these gray zones. Let's say for the sake of the hypothetical the intelligence is beyond dispute. Then what ? Do you take the risk Turkey will back down ? I suppose a big part of this comes down to the capabilities of the military of both Greece and Turkey, which is an area I know little about. Maybe the Greek military has diminished in strength relative to the Turkish military in the last decade or two ? Maybe ? Maybe ? The point I'm trying to make is that maybe it's possible we're not privy to critical information, which might explain Greece's reluctance to take the risk. Anyway, that's my 2 cents. Maybe less.

A thought experiment. Could it be that Turkey actually wants Greece to shoot down a Turkish jet out of the sky ? Could it be that all this provocation is aimed at getting Greece to perform a "violent" act and make Greece look like (a) the bad guy and (b) give Turkey a reason to actually then initiate further military action. As it is, Turkey can initiate military action. After all, who is there to stop them ? Where was the world community during the invasion of Cyprus ? But to do so without provocation (that they could manipulate) they would have to pay a heavy diplomatic (and economic?) price. Instead, just keep provoking those Greeks in the hope that one of them just loses his s%$#! and presses the "self-destruct" button. You see, if I was the President of Turkey and I actually wanted to somehow take land or islands from Greece, and this happened, I would just smile and say "Thank you very much. Now I have ALL the excuse I need to get the military involved". I am not saying this is the reality. But what I am saying is, how do we know this is not the reality ? Just thinking out loud. N.B. Not really versed in matters military.

@Dutch Eagle thanks for the updates. :)

I wouldn't subject young kids to that. Better to put the 1st team in, then when the whistle blows for kick-off, the whole team can run to the centre circle, form a huddle, one of the players could pulled a deck of cards out of his sock, and the boys could start playing manila. I wonder if there is a rule the referee could apply for the opposition "not participating" ?

I saw the game Qarabag vs Sloven and Qarabag were definitely the better team. They were actually quite decent in attack and played at a good temp although their defense was shaky. I think if we play smart we can get the 3 points.

I'll be happy with a draw and a solid game on our part. I'm actually more interested to see how our team plays against a solid opponent, rather than the result ... and that's because ... I don't believe we're quite there yet as far as making a real title challenge. A striker and midfielder that are "Biseswar" level ie. you can tell straight away they are something special, and a left back that has attacking instincts like Matos, and yes, we're definitely there. Anyhow, call me a pessimist. I'll be more than happy to be proven wrong.

Me too. Most of them seem to reside in Athens.

SMASHING finish by Rodrigues! Klaus will be having nightmares. Yes buddy, it wasn't a dream. You really did miss all those chances. Biseswar is looking better each game. Campos, Campos, wherefore art thou Campos.

@pash thanks champ! :)

Ah yes Recoba! He was a great player.

LOL

Yeah, seems to be a recent thing. ANNOYING.

N'Gog at Panionios! What is going on ? That's ridiculous. I mean, I never thought he was anything special but this is something else.

Any links with highlights or goals ? novasports is braindead and youtube is filled with "Live Streaming" hits these days.

I went to the game at the MCG although I was a kid at the time and don't remember too much. As for the rest of what you're saying, I get it. Those players you mention like Katholos, Patikas, Kalantzis, that was the golden age for us "wogs". Good times, great players.

You've been reported. Expect a visit from Pauline Hanson shortly.

Trance, like a lot of musical genres, can be really average, unoriginal and downright boring. But when it's good, it's REALLY good. @tantra129 do you remember this one ~1994. Oh when that sweet piano kicks in ~2:40.

Ha ha!

I think this would be similar to the case with China regarding the South China Sea islands. Turkey wouldn't attend and would consider any verdict as irrelevant. Still, it would give Greece a little moral ground for the future. But that would mean actually having the balls to do it. Which is to say, I don't see this happening anytime soon. As for Russia being an ally, man, they can't even treat their own people properly. The things done to the citizens of Russia by their own governments/leaders are nothing short of horrific. There is a reason why Russia doesn't have any allies. I can't even imagine a world where Russia developed the nuclear bomb before the U.S. It would have looked like something out George Orwell's 1984. Hairy East German armpits anyone ?

@Blackhawk isn't it better than nothing ? Then again, I suppose it all depends what comes of it.

Ministry of Bourdelia ?