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I'm willing to give Koulouris a few more games to see if he can produce. Mitroglou can still score and I still think he should be on the team. He would have had a couple last game with those opportunities that fell to koulouris. I think Van Schip should have called him up and used him to sub in at Finland. Sokratis and Manolas didn't say much after they let the Liechtenstein forward out pace them on the goal. I guess Sokratis can't blame Angelo that. I love Sokratis but he has to shut up and play and not worry if his pals don't get the call up to the Ethniki.

vs Group B matchday 1 18/09/2019 6:55 pm local time Karaiskakis Stadium Lo Celso to miss the match due to injury 1800 Spurs fans to make the trip to Karaiskaki

One can also play devils advocate to that and say, we didnt integrate the loser generation with these KK's at the time when we could have. There were many friendly games for example, that we played half aressed and didnt try some of the guys of today, instead they were all given the job after the World Cup and the rest is history. I does not excuse what we see today, but I always felt some of these guys could have had more exposure to the good days. How Samaris, who was part of those teams is one of our worst offenders now really makes you wonder.

J1078 my point was that these clowns that are on the field now were being called to replace the KK combo. Now you see why a two guys in their late 30's were playing close to 90 minute games in 2012 and 14

I think the team lacks cohesion. We need to find a team and stick to it. I hope with this next restart proper players with talent are called up and players who are going to be needed down the road. Meaning Samaris shouldn’t play. We are lacking creativity and finishing. We need more quality outwide too. These areas need fixing. I don’t know if we have the quality players to help this. Maybe L.Lamprou gets a look. Maybe Galanopoulos too. I’d like to see Lykogiannis again. Koutris should be our starting LB. Vlachodimos should go back in goals. Donis needs to start in this team. Fetfatzidis has to be in this team. Fetfatzidis is one of a few players with quality. Hopefully we start looking at Greek heritage players like Vasiliadis who plays at Paderborn and is the reason why they got promoted.

A lot of people criticized Katsouranis back then and wanted younger players in the squad. Some of them already deleted themselves from this forum but I guess some of their posts could be found even now. Gekas, Vyntra and Tziolis also had their haters but Katsouranis literally was to blame for everything. And of course Santos who always chose his favorite mummies, created a boring defensive team that was painful to watch and thwarted the development of terrific talents like Nines/Tachtsidis/Fetfatzidis etc. etc.

Coach van't Schip has copped a lot of criticism after the poor results. I found this interesting .. "... ακόμη και για έναν 'μπαρουτοκαπνισμένο', εγνωσμένης αξίας τεχνικό, το έργο 'ανοικοδόμησης' της εθνικής θα έμοιαζε δύσκολο και χρονοβόρο, and "Πόσω μάλλον για τον Ολλανδό, που προπονητικά δεν είχε να επιδείξει κάτι εντυπωσιακό και που έμοιαζε να έχει εκείνος περισσότερο ανάγκη από μια τέτοια συνεργασία, παρά το αντίθετο..." and "Σε κάθε περίπτωση η επιλογή του Φαν'τ Σιπ δεν ενθουσιάζει, καθώς μπορεί να ήταν ένας εξαιρετικός ποδοσφαιριστής με θητεία σε Άγιαξ και Τζένοα μετρώντας 41 συμμετοχές με την εθνική Ολλανδίας, ωστόσο ως τεχνικός δεν έχει τίποτε εντυπωσιακό στο παλμαρέ του.:" Here is the full article https://www.contra.gr/podosfairo/ta-6-vimata-tis-ethnikis-elladas-mechri-tin-anypolipsia.7497910.html The Greece NT job is a big challenge for any coach, but the fact van't Schip has been to Australia and Mexico is not necessarily a negative as it shows that he is prepared to move outside his comfort zone to further his own development. I am not sure he will succeed, but what I see is a professional who communicates well with the press and therefore with the players. His answers to difficult questions shows he is a coach who understand and realises the situation he finds himself in and what needs to be done. Greece NT is a team lacking in confidence, lacking in quality in key areas and undeserving of sold out stadiums. Injuries, retirements, an underperforming league, a lack of players playing in big leagues and a side that built it's success on defence are all contributing factors. I remember in Australia between 2014-17 van't Schip was very respected for the job he did with foundational club Melbourne City (fka. Melbourne Heart). The club built a reputation for attacking and high-scoring soccer, and had it's most sustained period of on-field success during van't Schip's time in charge. He left the club mid-way through the 2016/17 season to be with his terminally ill father. He formed a good working relationship with Michael Valkanis as his assistant and they are both now working together in the NT. These guys are no mugs, they have an eye for talent, and will roll their sleeves and will work with and bring the best talent to the NT. Another thing, van't Schip made it clear he will need time, he will work with youger players but won't automatically drop senior experienced players if they can help the team in next 2 years as he restarts the team. Call me crazy, but I am actually excited and look forward to Italy and Bosnia in Oct.

Η εξήγηση απλή. Παντρεύτηκε και δεν νομίζω να πήγε μήνα του μέλιτος... LOL

Honestly I don't think the coaching has been bad. They are holding the USA defensively quite well and the 3 point shots the team is missing are wide open looks. Whats really a tragedy is this tournement was set up for them to medal and they are doing everything in their power to blow it.