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Paok Aris 2-2 in 1976. Paok dominated in the beginning, but an incredible Aris comeback from 2-0 down. 40000 fans, Paok and Aris fans all sitting together (those were the days). I think there was no Θ4 fan club back in those days (was established later that year...?) and certainly no Super 3 either. Not many banners flags and scarves as today... No χαρτάκια either (that started a couple of years later) Stadium jampacked 2h before the game. Great atmosphere, everybody went home in one piece... Took us 2h (!!!) to drive back home...!

It’s actually very sad. We are playing worse I think than the Euro 2016 qualifiers. Or maybe the same. This group don’t work well together and I don’t know why. There is no cohesion. They are like individuals. We can’t be this bad. We so clueless when comes to attacking. And that’s from the midfield to the front. We haven’t got players in the middle to demand the ball. I don’t know exactly what needs to happen. One or two I’ve come to realise, will not change anything. Fetfatzidis for all the praise I give him and Fortounis for all good things he does is not enough. Manolas and Sokratis is not enough. This whole team needs to be a team. They need to bleed for the shirt and whatever they can for the win. In the game ive seen us get the ball forward and be completely clueless in what to do with it. At least with Donis pace on the wing we have more of a chance of something good to come out of it. I hope in the future Donis, Vrousai and Pavlidis GSL and we can maybe see an effective and dangerous Greece attack. Fortounis is only 26 he can still contribute. Maybe Tachtsidis needs to be recalled and work with Fortounis. Have either Zeca or Siopis do all the dirty work and heavy lifting in defence. Have Fetfatzidis come in for the attack. That’s if the coach doesn’t want to start him. I don’t know if that will still work out but any we have do something. We need more passion and grit on this team. Where has the love for the team and country gone?

Maybe they do read these foums after all! My first game in Toumpa was PAOK v Naxos in a cup game in August 1999.

At the end of the day boys it doesn’t matter who we have on the field as we have tried so many different players, the bottom line is the players don’t mesh together and they don’t all buy into the system they are playing...This team doesn’t look like a team they look like 11 players doing there own thing out there.. There is no true leader on the field to take charge and lead by example... This team needs to rebuild as this current core doesn’t cut it.. As far as the coach he should be given a chance from now to the world qualifier campaign no point to keep changing these guys it’s not going to make a difference as the problem lies way deeper then the coach.. The problem we have now and going forward is we will be in groups that have 3 good teams and will be tougher and tougher to qualify for tournaments that’s how fall we have fallen... They might us well use these remaining games to start young players and try to build a team and a system.. I don’t see any pride or passion on this team at all..

I agree

If we can lose to the Faroe Islands..........

Prediction Greece 0:1 Liechtenstein

It’s brutal right now, i can’t believe I would have said this a year or so ago but under Skibbe we looked much better and the players looked more focused. I doubt if he had still been Manager that we would be sitting with 4 points after 5 matches in this group. It’s almost as bad as the euro 2016 debacle. I watched Cyprus today and they played some nice football compared to Greece. On there goal they moved the ball around nicely and quickly. They looked like a cohesive group, most of our players don’t seem to care when they put on the NT Jersey compared to when they are playing at there clubs. It’s such a shame that we are back in the dumps like during the 2016 euro qualifiers.

I’m in and enjoying Oranje thrashing Germany in Germany: 2-4.

well, besides our defense coach fielded a very young team.. excluding defense and goalie we averaged 24 year olds. If I include the subs such as Pavlidis at 20 years old even less. I think the transition has already started, the team just needs some consistency thats all, we might be ready by the time the WC qualifiers come around.

My pre-playoff top 5 1. PAOK 2. OSFP 3. PAO 4. AEK 5. Aris