drakos13 Posted June 7, 2008 Share Posted June 7, 2008 Silly passes, no faith going forward........dear god why??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drakos13 Posted June 7, 2008 Share Posted June 7, 2008 My Ratings: Volkan 7 Servet 6 Balta 5 Gokhan 5 Auerlio 7 Emre 6 Altintop 5 Tuncay 4 Kazim 5 Erdinc 5 Nihat 5 Subs: Sabri 7 Asik 6 Semih /NA Fatih Terim 3 Guess GS1905 was right... not Turkey's year......but still, the lack of effort out there after the 1-0 was pretty shameful. The lineup, the wasting posessions, all hideous.....it seemed like Terim wanted to keep a 0-0 after half time. Subs were totally wasted on Sabri (who should be starting) and Asik..... then when 1-0 down all was left was 1 sub...and this is the 65th minute :blink: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haydar Posted June 7, 2008 Share Posted June 7, 2008 i havent changed my list after i have watched the first matches, 1.Portugal 2.Czech 3.Turkey 4.Swiss This night if Portugal&Turkey play till morning Turkey wouldnt score a goal, The game plan was terrible if u change middle of Turkey they are nothing that Terim tried it, and without Arda Turan, and of course terrible deffanse...It hurted to watch this kind of team which was the one of the terrible Turkey hope they ll be better on the other matches... Now i m waiting for my second team ''Grecee'':) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irlandos Posted June 7, 2008 Share Posted June 7, 2008 Judging from the A group's matches today: Portugal will take 1st. Switzerland will take 4th. 2nd place will be played between the Czechs and Turkey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loup Posted June 8, 2008 Share Posted June 8, 2008 tough game today a question , with all due respect for his skill: is Emre a little chunky, or is that muscle? He looked like a 1990's maradona out there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irlandos Posted June 8, 2008 Share Posted June 8, 2008 That was always my impression of Emre Belozoglu... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irlandos Posted June 8, 2008 Share Posted June 8, 2008 Btw, I just had an interesting thought: what would happen if Turkey were eliminated by a goal from that "Swiss" player... Hakan Yakin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drakos13 Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 probably same as what Lucas Podolski did today... :ph34r: Hakan Yakin is of Turkish parents, but he was born and raised in Switzerland... there are a lot of Turks in Switzerland and many in football. The immigrants there really into football, and thats why I think theres so many foreign players playing for them. Switzerland really is a very multicultural country. And hey - if playing for Switzerland can actually get you the Swiss passport - why not ? :LOL: (swiss passport extremley difficult to attain) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GS1905 Posted June 9, 2008 Author Share Posted June 9, 2008 probably same as what Lucas Podolski did today... :ph34r: Hakan Yakin is of Turkish parents, but he was born and raised in Switzerland... there are a lot of Turks in Switzerland and many in football. The immigrants there really into football, and thats why I think theres so many foreign players playing for them. Switzerland really is a very multicultural country. And hey - if playing for Switzerland can actually get you the Swiss passport - why not ? :LOL: (swiss passport extremley difficult to attain) guys, it's not only Hakan Yakin.. In the Swiss side we have two fellow born-to-Turkish-parents players, Gokhan Inler from Udinese and Eren Derdiyok from FC Basel and based on Frei's injury seriousness, all could start against Turkey..and I was NOT surprised by the Turkish outing against Portugal as I expected a bad performance.. The only additional thing was Terim's extremely poor selection of squad... next game I would field; -------------------Rustu------------------ --Sabri---Servet---Gungor----Balta---- ------Altintop----Ayhan---Aurelio------- --Nihat----------Senturk------Arda----- but I am quite sure Terim wouldn't dare put in two brand-new players in a crucial game and we'll have to deal with Emre's lazy play and Asik's lacklustre defending.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irlandos Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 guys, it's not only Hakan Yakin.. In the Swiss side we have two fellow born-to-Turkish-parents players, Gokhan Inler from Udinese and Eren Derdiyok from FC Basel and based on Frei's injury seriousness, all could start against Turkey.. Will their ancestral villages be safe from angry mobs if they score against their mother country? :huh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drakos13 Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 probably same as what Lucas Podolski did today... :ph34r: Hakan Yakin is of Turkish parents, but he was born and raised in Switzerland... there are a lot of Turks in Switzerland and many in football. The immigrants there really into football, and thats why I think theres so many foreign players playing for them. Switzerland really is a very multicultural country. And hey - if playing for Switzerland can actually get you the Swiss passport - why not ? :LOL: (swiss passport extremley difficult to attain) guys, it's not only Hakan Yakin.. In the Swiss side we have two fellow born-to-Turkish-parents players, Gokhan Inler from Udinese and Eren Derdiyok from FC Basel and based on Frei's injury seriousness, all could start against Turkey..and I was NOT surprised by the Turkish outing against Portugal as I expected a bad performance.. The only additional thing was Terim's extremely poor selection of squad... next game I would field; -------------------Rustu------------------ --Sabri---Servet---Gungor----Balta---- ------Altintop----Ayhan---Aurelio------- --Nihat----------Senturk------Arda----- but I am quite sure Terim wouldn't dare put in two brand-new players in a crucial game and we'll have to deal with Emre's lazy play and Asik's lacklustre defending.. not to mention Tuncay being absolutley pathetic.And yes, Swiss have more than one Turk on the team.....There are many in Switz...Austria also has 2 Turks on the team... In my team in Switz we had a few Turks too and the senior team even had Turkish players... Leaving out Arda was just idiotic man...Honestly the offensive final touches were blatntly missing, Arda could have changed that game in a big way for Turkey...give them more time on the ball, smarter play and even a few tricks... And using all the subs that early to put in defenders....Terim simply isnt good for this team. Theyre going to need somebody who has a bit more faith in the team than this, because the Turks gave up after 1-0, it was obvious in everything they did. I dont see why the Turks would be angry at them scoring....there part of the opponents now, and theyre Swiss Turks...I mean if Greek players scored against us Id probably groan more that we got scored on rather than it being a Greek player.... Well have to see in a few years when Michal Papadopoulos of Czech Rep ever makes the team and plays Greece...Or Masmanidis for Germany, but Masmanidis will never make that team, he made a very bad decision IMO and ruled himself out of an international career....but to be honest he wouldnt make the Greek team either. Other than that, theres the NewYorican Greek in USA and Jason Koumas for Wales. :LOL: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GS1905 Posted June 11, 2008 Author Share Posted June 11, 2008 Turkish line-up against Swiss team today... ------------------------Volkan------------------------ --Altintop---Emre Asik----Servet Cetin--Balta---- ------------------------Aurelio------------------------ ---Gokdeniz--------Arda--Tumer Metin--Tuncay-- -------------------------Nihat------------------------- looks 4-1-4-1 and only with one true DM.. I expect the Swiss to start with... ------------------Benaglio---------------- -Lichtsteiner-Muller-Senderos-Magnin- -Barnetta--Gelson--Gokhan--Behrami- -----------Yakin-----Eren Derdiyok----- If Portugal beats Czech Rep as things look to be, we should AT LEAST NOT LOSE the Swiss game so this tactic may be a bit on the crazy side by Terim; especially the selection of Metin who had a decent half-season at AEL looks controversial over Akman of Galatasaray.. :blink: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drakos13 Posted June 11, 2008 Share Posted June 11, 2008 Metin had a good season man..... i think hell do well...he did score a some great goals, including a nice one vs Olympiakos.... Fatih made the right decision to put Arda on.....doesnt he usually play wide though? Good to see no Emre. He was going to waste your time. I still think Switzerland will get the best...they have to do it here..... That midfield is PURE attack...it seems defensively Aurelio is going to have a hell of a job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GS1905 Posted June 11, 2008 Author Share Posted June 11, 2008 on Turkish TV, one expert just said this could well be a 4-4-2 formation in which the two upfront can rotate anytime (Nihat, Gokdeniz, Tuncay and Arda). sounds a reasonable comment... B) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GS1905 Posted June 11, 2008 Author Share Posted June 11, 2008 Arda Turan scores in 90+2 to steer us into a final contest with Czech Rep... :nw: :nw: Revenge Taken!!! :whistle: :whistle: SWITZERLAND: 1 TURKIYE: 2 GOALS: Hakan Yakin / Semih , Arda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazarus Posted June 11, 2008 Share Posted June 11, 2008 Great game against the Swiss -- great 2nd half! Congratulations for a wonderful win... It might have been a nail biter, but at the end... well worth it! Good luck in the next game! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drakos13 Posted June 11, 2008 Share Posted June 11, 2008 well.......shows how stupid Terim was in the first match. Arda - great player, you have to be absoltuley stupid not to play the guy and lead your offense - even if youre playing conservativley vs Portugal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loup Posted June 11, 2008 Share Posted June 11, 2008 Bravo sas well played Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irlandos Posted June 11, 2008 Share Posted June 11, 2008 After yesterday, it was nice to see some football - for a change! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GS1905 Posted June 11, 2008 Author Share Posted June 11, 2008 the commentator in RAI said: "Arrrdaaa, Cristiano Ronaldo della Turchiaa" :LOL: :LOL: :LOL: :LOL: :LOL: :LOL: :LOL: :LOL: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haydar Posted June 11, 2008 Share Posted June 11, 2008 well.......shows how stupid Terim was in the first match. Arda - great player, you have to be absoltuley stupid not to play the guy and lead your offense - even if youre playing conservativley vs Portugal.This match has showed the Terim' game plan and chooses of players was bullshit...But this night he was lucky...The rain locked Turkey first half because Turkey is not a organised team and weak as physical but i have to say even Turkey seen better as football, normally match' right was ''1-1'' My list again the same; 1.Portugal 2.Czech Rep. 3.Turkey 4.Swiss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loup Posted June 12, 2008 Share Posted June 12, 2008 This match has showed the Terim' game plan and chooses of players was bullshit...But this night he was lucky... The rain locked Turkey first half because Turkey is not a organised team and weak as physical but i have to say even Turkey seen better as football, normally match' right was ''1-1'' My list again the same; 1.Portugal 2.Czech Rep. 3.Turkey 4.Swiss no no you will beat the czech -- you are a better team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haydar Posted June 12, 2008 Share Posted June 12, 2008 Turkey is not playing team football and deffansively its messy otherwise i beleive Turkish footballers are more tecnique but havent you see at the 86. min when the game was 1-1 Swiss team attacked and only 2 players were on deffance and they do this mistakes very often... Wish Turkey wins but i feel it will be draw,,, And Czech ll win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
js1000 Posted June 12, 2008 Share Posted June 12, 2008 turkey will progress into the last 8 they have an excellent attacking team and a great young goalkeeper in demirel 2 very good forwards sanli and nihat a superb winger in turan and a super fullback in altintop and a very strong mentality, a team who battle to the end, the czechs are a decent team but i believe turkey are stronger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GS1905 Posted June 12, 2008 Author Share Posted June 12, 2008 turkey will progress into the last 8 they have an excellent attacking team and a great young goalkeeper in demirel 2 very good forwards sanli and nihat a superb winger in turan and a super fullback in altintop and a very strong mentality, a team who battle to the end, the czechs are a decent team but i believe turkey are stronger well... i should keep blaming myself for not seeing the picture so positively then.. <_< Demirel can make blunders and turn into a very erratic goalie with the blink of an eye (see Sevilla games in CL)... Tuncay has been the disappointment of the tournament so far!!! Nihat is yet to perform the half of his club form in the NT!!! Arda was disappointing yesterday except for that last-gasp goal!! Altintop's actual position is M RC or even AM but because our other option in that RB position is Sabri, we'll keep using him there!! The Czechs might not have Rosicky and Nedved but they're still a team performing as a unit who is consistent 80 % of the time... And their centre-backs are much less prone to making costly errors.. I hope I'm not too negative but my hopes for the Czech game are very low.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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