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Welcome to the forums.
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Korovesis is back practicing, so he might be able to help.
Also Vitor is out due to the red card he got against Iraklis, so I expect Malezas to get a chance.
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Tzavellas is a liability. Flirting with a red card in every game. He's also prone to defensive mistakes, just like he did last Sunday.There are better players we can get to play his position, but for now he has a spot on the team due to the lack of other options.
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And when we do, the refs take it away.
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@Blackhawk - I don't think the stat that PAOK is 5-15-51 against PAO is correct. When I looked it up it seems we have 5 wins in the prior 12 meetings.
2015-10-25 Superleague Greece PAOK 3-1 Panathinaikos2015-03-08 Superleague Greece Panathinaikos 4-3 PAOK2014-11-09 Superleague Greece PAOK 1-2 Panathinaikos2014-02-09 Superleague Greece Panathinaikos 2-1 PAOK2013-10-06 Superleague Greece PAOK 2-1 Panathinaikos2013-03-17 Superleague Greece PAOK 2-0 Panathinaikos2012-11-18 Superleague Greece Panathinaikos 2-0 PAOK2012-03-03 Superleague Greece Panathinaikos 0-2 PAOK2011-10-29 Superleague Greece PAOK 1-3 Panathinaikos2011-02-05 Superleague Greece PAOK 0-1 Panathinaikos2010-10-15 Superleague Greece Panathinaikos 1-0 PAOK2010-02-20 Superleague Greece PAOK 2-1 PanathinaikosThat's because you include home games. My stats are only for the away games, since that's what Sunday's game is.
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I don't know about big...but I dont see us winning. Who do we even have left to play?
Well Berbatov is out, but Mak is back. As far as I know no other injured players are expected to come back. Also Leovac and Mystakidis who played last Sunday were not completely ready either.
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There probably is some truth to this, but if the team is run in a professional manner, such issues should be taken care off by the coaching staff. However at PAOK it might be difficult, when the owner's son (and future team owner) publicly claims that he is friends with Tzavellas and has a poster of the player hanging on the wall.
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I believe we will lose big on Sunday. Hope I am wrong.
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Not sure if he will play another game for PAOK. Maybe at the friendly match commemorating the 90 years of PAOK.
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Would not be surprised if by next May they will be calling for his head. Hopefully Savvidis has the balls to support him through the tough times.
Well I was off by few months.
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I would find it bizarre that Arnesen would leave but the coach would stay.
I am certain that he will not finish the season with the club. Remember that couple weeks ago during a vote it was revealed that Arnesen and Aggelidis voted to keep Tudor at his position, while Michel and Vezyrtzis voted to fire him. Well Aggelidis and Arnesen are gone. Tudor is next.
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MATCHUP: Panathinaikos Athens - P.A.O.K. Thessaloniki
COMPETITION: Superleague - Round 23
DATE: 21-February-2016
TIME: 19:30 GR (17:30 GMT, 11:30 CST, 04:30 AEDT next day)
CITY/STADIUM: Athens - Apostolos Nikolaidis Stadium (Capacity: 16,003)
REFEREES: Georgios Kominis (Thesprotia) - Christos Magiannis (Arta), Georgios Kalfoglou (Thesprotia)
TELEVISION: Nova Sports 1 (Greece, Cyprus, Albania, Bulgaria) Antenna Satellite/Pacific (USA, Canada/Australia)
Panathinaikos vs. P.A.O.K. history:
Superleague
2014-2015: 2:0 - Attendance: 12,964 (PLAY-OFFS)
2014-2015: 4:3 (Athanasiadis, Skondras, Noboa) - Attendance: no fans
2013-2014: 1:1 (Salpiggidis) - Attendance: 11,713 (PLAY-OFFS)
2013-2014: 2:1 (Athanasiadis) - Attendance: 11,113
2012-2013: 2:0 - Attendance: 13,511
2011-2012: 2:0 - Attendance: 3,012 (PLAY-OFFS)
2011-2012: 0:2 (Lino-p, Salpiggidis) - Attendance: no fans
2010-2011: 1:0 - Attendance: 19,800 (PLAY-OFFS)
2010-2011: 1:0 - Attendance: no fans
2009-2010: 2:1 (Vieirinha) - Attendance: 19,875
2008-2009: 4:1 (Malezas) - Attendance: 14,673 (PLAY-OFFS)
2008-2009: 3:0 (?) - Attendance: 26,430
2007-2008: 2:0 - Attendance: 10,048
2006-2007: 2:1 (Zegarra) - Attendance: 21,356
2005-2006: 1:0 - Attendance: 21,358
Alpha Ethniki (Professional)
2004-2005: 2:1 (Andralas) - Attendance: 11,001
2003-2004: 3:0 - Attendance: 9,685
2002-2003: 1:0 - Attendance: 13,620
2001-2002: 1:2 (Okkas, Konstantinidis) - Attendance: 10,337
2000-2001: 5:2 (Georgiadis-p, Nalitzis) - Attendance: 9,914
1999-2000: 1:1 (Nagbe) - Attendance: ? (4,000 PAOK fans present)
1998-1999: 0:1 (Frantzeskos) - Attendance: ?
1997-1998: 3:1 (Maragos) - Attendance: ?
1996-1997: 5:0 - Attendance: ?
1995-1996: 2:0 - Attendance: ?
1994-1995: 3:0 - Attendance: ?
1993-1994: 2:0 - Attendance: ?
1992-1993: 5:0 - Attendance: ?
1991-1992: 5:1 (Toursounidis-p) - Attendance: ?
1990-1991: 3:0 (?) - Attendance: ? (This is the game where PAOK owner Thomas Voulinos took the team off the field in the 77th minute due to biased officiating by the ref Karamanis, who has shown red cards to Skartados and Magdi. PAOK lost the game on paper and was deducted 3 points from the standings.
1989-1990: 2:2 (Lagonidis, Malioufas) - Attendance: ?
1988-1989: 1:0 - Attendance: ?
1987-1988: 2:1 (Alexandridis) - Attendance: ?
1986-1987: 0:0 - Attendance: ?
1985-1986: 5:0 (?) - Attendance: ?
1984-1985: 0:1 (Paprica) - Attendance: ? (8,000 fans in attendance)
1983-1984: 0:0 (?) - Attendance: ?
1982-1983: 2:0 - Attendance: ?
1981-1982: 2:1 (Dimopoulos) - Attendance: ?
1980-1981: 0:0 - Attendance: ?
1979-1980: 0:0 (?) - Attendance: ?
Alpha Ethniki (Amateur/Semi-Professional)
1978-1979: 2:2 (Kermanidis, Kostikos) - Attendance: ?
1977-1978: 0:0 - Attendance: ?
1976-1977: 0:0 - Attendance: ?
1975-1976: 1:1 (?) - Attendance: ?
1974-1975: 1:1 (?) - Attendance: ?
1973-1974: 3:2 (?) - Attendance: ?
1972-1973: 0:2 (forfeit) - Attendance: ?
1971-1972: 1:0 - Attendance: ?
1970-1971: 3:0 - Attendance: ?
1969-1970: 1:1 - Attendance: ?
1968-1969: 2:0 - Attendance: ?
1967-1968: 1:0 - Attendance: ?
1966-1967: 0:0 - Attendance: ?
1965-1966: 2:0 - Attendance: ?
1964-1965: 2:0 - Attendance: ?
1963-1964: 4:0 - Attendance: ?
1962-1963: 2:1 (?) - Attendance: ?
1961-1962: 3:1 (?) - Attendance: ?
1960-1961: 2:0 - Attendance: ?
1959-1960: 1:0 - Attendance: ?
Panhellenic Championship
1958-1959: 3:0 - Attendance: ?
1957-1958: 2:2 (?)- Attendance: ?
1956-1957: 3:1 (?) - Attendance: ?
1955-1956: 3:1(?) - Attendance: ?
1954-1955: 3:2 (?) - Attendance: ?
1953-1954: 1:0 - Attendance: ?
1936-1937: 2:0 - Attendance: ?
1935-1936: 6:1 (?) - Attendance: ?
1931-1932: 2:1 (?)- Attendance: ?
1930-1931: 7:1(?) - Attendance: ?
GAMES: 71
WINS: 5
TIES: 15
LOSSES: 51
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I think it is 1926 run. The year that PAOK was born.
Placed my order for two shirts today.
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Savvidis for the past four years takes one step forward and then six month later two steps back.
I am now convinced that PAOK will always be stuck in the "village" mentality. When people like Kolkas and the organized fans are able to influence the team decisions, there is no future.
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Looks like it's a matter of hours before Arnesen is fired or resigns.
He did not attend yesterday's match and did not take part in any top level meetings with Savvidis after the game.
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I still think he's a decent coach...but when brought in under bad conditions, and when he divides the locker room, NO coach can succeed.
The problem at PAOK is that it's the players that divide the locker room, and some of them have the backing and the support of sleazy PAOK reporters.
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Looks like Tudor and possibly Arnesen will be history after tonight. Same story every year for the last 4 years. Savvidis just does not have a clue.
As for AE Pontion, their season is complete success. They did not lose to the Turkish visitors (as they like to call us).
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PAOK women's handball team won the Greek Cup today beating Nea Ionia 32:31. Now they are ready for the double.
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Starting lineup:
Hey, no Tziolis!
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I am not challenging you. I am just repeating myself. Must be Friday. LOL
Anyway if we don't improve our play it does not matter who we play. I remember Atromitos just a few years ago eliminating us from the cup final in Toumba, with Itanje gifting the win to his ex-team.
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If this law is actually enforced, which I doubt, it will be interesting to see which of the existing national networks get to keep their licenses:
Alpha
Antenna
Makedonia
Mega
Skai
Star
Don't forget that most of these stations have severe financial problems.
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Which means that he risks of getting another red card. I am sure the Iraklis coach will take this into account.
The main thing for not losing this game will be to prevent Iraklis players from feeding the ball to Vellios.
Still I don't see how we will score. I predict a scoreless draw.
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My lineup:
-------------------- Vellidis ------------------Kitsiou - Vitor - Chatziisaias - Tzavellas-------- Kace ------Tziolis ---- Cimirot -------- Golasa ------------------------- Pelkas ------------------- Berbatov ----------------- -
Leovac and Charisis are back practicing with the team, but I doubt if they will play.
Mystakidis is definitively out, and Klaus a strong possibility that he will miss the game as well.
And on top add the remaining 8 to 9 players that are out due to injuries.
SL-R23: Panathinaikos - PAOK (21-Feb-16, 19:30 GR)
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I mentioned Malezas above, but I am fairly sure that Tudor will play Tzavellas instead as CB. I also hope Mystakidis is able to play. Otherwise we have no offense to speak off.
Possible lineup:
---------------------- Vellidis ----------------------
Kitsiou - Chatziisaias - Tzavellas - Leovac
-------- Cimirot --------------- Kace -------------
Mystakidis ------ Pelkas ------------- Golasa
----------------------- Mak -------------------------