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Pereyra and Glykos have been ruled out of the game due to injuries. Of course Tzavellas is out as well and will not play against his future team (as rumored by the press). Bad thing for PAOK is that Panathinaikos got new coach, and it's somebody who has given PAOK problems in the past with the teams that he was coaching.
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I would add another positive thing and that is that some our our starters got rest ahead of the two difficult games against Panathinaikos (Sunday) and Liberec (Thursday). As for the fringe players, what other incentive do they need in order show their potential (if they have any).
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VS MATCHUP: P.A.O.K. Thessaloniki - FC Slovan Liberec COMPETITION: Europa League – Group Stage - Round 6 DATE: 08-December-2016 TIME: 18:00 GR (16:00 GMT, 10:00 CST, 03:00 AEDT next day) CITY/STADIUM: Thessalonikki – Toumba Stadium (28,703) REFEREES: Andre Marriner - Simon Beck, Harry Lennard - Kevin Friend, Robert Madley (England) TELEVISION: OTE Sport TV (Greece), Fox Soccer 2GO (USA) Standings: ACF Fiorentina - 10 Qarabag FK – 7 PAOK Thessaloniki – 7 FC Slovan Liberec - 4 Our European history against teams from Czech Republic: 2016-2017: Slovan Liberec - PAOK FC 1:2 (Athanasiadis 2) - Attendance: 8,880 (Europa League – Group Stage – Round 2 ) 2001-2002: PAOK FC – Marila Pribram 6:1 (Giasemis 2, Okkas 2, Konstantinidis, Luciano) - Attendance: 7,376 (UEFA Cup – Round 1 – Leg 1) 2001-2002: Marila Pribram – PAOK FC 2:2 - Attendance: 2,225 (UEFA Cup – Round 1 – Leg 2) 2002-2003: PAOK FC – SK Slavia Prague 1:0 (Georgiadis) - Attendance: 16,113 (UEFA Cup – Round 3 – Leg 1) 2002-2003: SK Slavia Prague – PAOK FC 4:0 - Attendance: 8,563 (UEFA Cup – Round 3 – Leg 2) GAMES: 5 WINS: 3 TIES: 2 LOSSES: 1
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Only on tape her ein the US at 15:15 EST. Live on Laola1.tv
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There are 4 or 5 players part of the clique. For some of them the common denominator is Paul the agent. For others it's being a member of the NT. I also find the sudden Glykos injury quite questionable. Don't forget when Anastasiadis took over as a coach, there was an incident between Tzavellas and Pereyra. I think Ivic picked on Tzavellas in order to send a message to the rest of the clique. Basically he is giving them a second chance. However I still think the most likely scenario is Ivic getting the boot in the next couple months.
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Not travelling to Trikala are Matos, Varela, Campos, Koulouris, Canas, Rodrigues, and Tzavellas of course. The squad picked by Ivic: Μπρκιτς, Σιαμπάνης, Λέοβατς, Γιαννούλης, Κίτσιου, Πούγγουρας, Δοδοντσάκης, Μαλεζάς, Κρέσπο, Τσίμιροτ, Χαρίσης, Σάκχοφ, Μπίσεσβαρ, Πέλκας, Κοροβέσης, Ματθαίου, Μυστακίδης, Τιάμ, Περέιρα, Αθανασιάδης
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I really doubt that Ivic was instrumental in getting him the extension. He probably did not have any choice in the matter. I think it was Savvidis Jr. that pushed that through. There is no doubt in my mind about that. He was just taking care of his close drinking buddy. Tzavellas is not an angel. He has a history of problems, not only at PAOK, but elsewhere as well. He is a decent player, but also a big primadona. I really believe that there is a clique of national team players on the team that have their own agenda. I think there is a lot of behind the scenes issues that we don't know about.
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In the other game of the group: Larisa - Panelefsiniakos 2:1 So basically we need at least a tie tomorrow and a win against the weakest team in the group to get first place.
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It was the clique that tried to get rid of Pereyra from the team.
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He asked to have the decision in writing. I see legal actions ensuing soon.
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That team is from Katerini.
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Wish we played Elefsina this round instead of Trikala. Would have been an easy win and qualification. Trikala won their first game, and probably will have sights on finishing in first place if they manage to beat us. This means they have incentive to play hard against us. I'd like to field a team full of subs, but Ivic will probably have to use some of his starters. My lineup: ------------------- Vellidis ------------------ Kitsiou - Varela - Crespo - Giannoulis Charisis ------ Biseswar ------- Cimirot Mystakidis ---- Koulouris ----- Thiam
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Canas will play as well despite his red card.
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Tzavellas has been a troublemaker ever since he came to PAOK. He had run ins with past coaches (Anastasiadis), players (Pereyra). He has been quiet this season and was plying fairly well, but that was before his new contract. Let's not forget he is also a best buddy with owners son.It's probably Georgios Savvidis that convinced his father to extend his contract recently. Once he got his new contract in hand, he probably figured out he has the upper hand and started creating problems in the dressing room. Ivic said "things" have been going on for the past month. Guess when he signed his new contract? ivic also said that he changed his mind about starters in yesterday's game at the last minute. My take is that he was pressed by Savvidis Junior to start Tzavellas, since I believe he was planning on using Crespo in the game according to press reports. Incidently, his agent has had a big involvement with PAOK for a long time thanks to Zagorakis. He might play a role in this turmoil as well. He might be pissed at Ivic for sidelining one of his players (Tziolis). Keep an eye on Pelkas and Koulouris as well, as they have the same agent. I thinkTzavellas will sit this out until Ivic is gone. Just like he did with Anastasiadis. Unless Ivic has a spectacular run in the next month or two, I see him out by end of February.
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Savvidis said he is embarrassed by the team following the game with Atromitos, and allegedly told Ivic and Michel that he ill not step in Toumba again. In the meantime what the media bafoons don't report on are the behind the scenes discussions:
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I think you just need a tie against Veroia to advance. Would like to see a Thessaloniki matchup in the next round.
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VS MATCHUP: Panathinaikos Athens - P.A.O.K. Thessaloniki COMPETITION: Superleague - Round 13 DATE: 04-December-2016 TIME: 19:30 GR (17:30 GMT, 11:30 CST, 04:30 AEDT next day) CITY/STADIUM: Athens – Apostolos Nikolaidis Stadium (Capacity: 16,003) REFEREES: TELEVISION: Novasports (Greece, Cyprus, Albania, Bulgaria) Antenna Satellite/Pacific (USA, Canada/Australia) Panathinaikos vs. P.A.O.K. history: Superleague 2015-2016: 1:1 (Charisis) - Attendance: 8,178 (PLAY-OFFS) 2015-2016: 2:2 (Cimirot, Pelkas) - Attendance: 8,318 2014-2015: 2:0 - Attendance: 12,964 (PLAY-OFFS) 2014-2015: 4:3 (Athanasiadis, Skondras, Noboa) - Attendance: no fans 2013-2014: 1:1 (Salpiggidis) - Attendance: 11,713 (PLAY-OFFS) 2013-2014: 2:1 (Athanasiadis) - Attendance: 11,113 2012-2013: 2:0 - Attendance: 13,511 2011-2012: 2:0 - Attendance: 3,012 (PLAY-OFFS) 2011-2012: 0:2 (Lino-p, Salpiggidis) - Attendance: no fans 2010-2011: 1:0 - Attendance: 19,800 (PLAY-OFFS) 2010-2011: 1:0 - Attendance: no fans 2009-2010: 2:1 (Vieirinha) - Attendance: 19,875 2008-2009: 4:1 (Malezas) - Attendance: 14,673 (PLAY-OFFS) 2008-2009: 3:0 - Attendance: 26,430 2007-2008: 2:0 - Attendance: 10,048 2006-2007: 2:1 (Zegarra) - Attendance: 21,356 2005-2006: 1:0 - Attendance: 21,358 Alpha Ethniki (Professional) 2004-2005: 2:1 (Andralas) - Attendance: 11,001 2003-2004: 3:0 - Attendance: 9,685 2002-2003: 1:0 - Attendance: 13,620 2001-2002: 1:2 (Okkas, Konstantinidis) - Attendance: 10,337 2000-2001: 5:2 (Georgiadis-p, Nalitzis) - Attendance: 9,914 1999-2000: 1:1 (Nagbe) - Attendance: ? (4,000 PAOK fans present) 1998-1999: 0:1 (Frantzeskos) - Attendance: ? 1997-1998: 3:1 (Maragos) - Attendance: ? 1996-1997: 5:0 - Attendance: ? 1995-1996: 2:0 - Attendance: ? 1994-1995: 3:0 - Attendance: ? 1993-1994: 2:0 - Attendance: ? 1992-1993: 5:0 - Attendance: ? 1991-1992: 5:1 (Toursounidis-p) - Attendance: ? 1990-1991: 3:0 (?) - Attendance: ? (This is the game where PAOK owner Thomas Voulinos took the team off the field in the 77th minute due to biased officiating by the ref Karamanis, who has shown red cards to Skartados and Magdi. PAOK lost the game on paper and was deducted 3 points from the standings. 1989-1990: 2:2 (Lagonidis, Malioufas) - Attendance: ? 1988-1989: 1:0 - Attendance: ? 1987-1988: 2:1 (Alexandridis) - Attendance: ? 1986-1987: 0:0 - Attendance: ? 1985-1986: 5:0 - Attendance: ? 1984-1985: 0:1 (Paprica) - Attendance: ? (8,000 fans in attendance) 1983-1984: 0:0 - Attendance: ? 1982-1983: 2:0 - Attendance: ? 1981-1982: 2:1 (Dimopoulos) - Attendance: ? 1980-1981: 0:0 - Attendance: ? 1979-1980: 0:0 - Attendance: ? Alpha Ethniki (Amateur/Semi-Professional) 1978-1979: 2:2 (Kermanidis, Kostikos) - Attendance: ? 1977-1978: 0:0 - Attendance: ? 1976-1977: 0:0 - Attendance: ? 1975-1976: 1:1 (Anastasiadis) - Attendance: ? 1974-1975: 1:1 (Sarafis) - Attendance: ? 1973-1974: 3:2 (Terzanidis, Tsakiropoulos)) - Attendance: ? 1972-1973: 0:2 (forfeit) - Attendance: ? 1971-1972: 1:0 - Attendance: ? 1970-1971: 3:0 - Attendance: ? 1969-1970: 1:1 (Afentoulidis) - Attendance: ? 1968-1969: 2:0 - Attendance: ? 1967-1968: 1:0 - Attendance: ? 1966-1967: 0:0 - Attendance: ? 1965-1966: 2:0 - Attendance: ? 1964-1965: 2:0 - Attendance: ? 1963-1964: 4:0 - Attendance: ? 1962-1963: 2:1 (Giakoumis) - Attendance: ? 1961-1962: 3:1 (Leandros) - Attendance: ? 1960-1961: 2:0 - Attendance: ? 1959-1960: 1:0 - Attendance: ? Panhellenic Championship 1958-1959: 3:0 - Attendance: ? 1957-1958: 2:2 (?)- Attendance: ? 1956-1957: 3:1 (?) - Attendance: ? 1955-1956: 3:1(?) - Attendance: ? 1954-1955: 3:2 (?) - Attendance: ? 1953-1954: 1:0 - Attendance: ? 1936-1937: 2:0 - Attendance: ? 1935-1936: 6:1 (?) - Attendance: ? 1931-1932: 2:1 (?)- Attendance: ? 1930-1931: 7:1(?) - Attendance: ? GAMES: 73 WINS: 5 TIES: 17 LOSSES: 51
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VS MATCHUP: AO Trikala - P.A.O.K. Thessaloniki COMPETITION: Greek Cup – Group Stage - Round 2 DATE: 01-December-2016 TIME: 17:15 GR (15:15 GMT, 09:15 CST, 02:15 AEDT next day) CITY/STADIUM: Trikala – Dimotiko Stadio (15,000) REFEREES: TELEVISION: OTE Sport TV (Greece), Laola1.TV (Worldwide) Antenna Satellite (USA/Canada) and Antenna Pacific (Australia) will show the game on 5 hour delay basis PAOK – Trikala Greek Cup History: 1995-1996: 1:2 (Jovic, Zouboulis) - Attendance: 1,232 (Trikala Stadium) – Quartefinal - Leg 2 1995-1996: 3:0 (Nolis 2, Kapetanopoulos) - Attendance: 4,992 (Toumba Stadium) – Quarterfinal - Leg 1 1970-1971: 6:1 (Mantzourakis 3, Aslanidis, Paridis, Koudas) - Attendance: ? (Toumba Stadium) – Round 1 GAMES: 3 WINS: 3 TIES: 0 LOSSES: 0
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First half should have been 4:0 and game over. We never finish our opponents. That is our biggest problem. Now Ivic comes out and claims that there are people creating problems in the dressing room for the past month or so. He actually said that it is going to be either him or the players will leave.
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Ivic came out and said some players sabotaged him today. He also said that right before the game he changed the lineup and now he is sorry that he did. The way I see it is that Ivic later today will be history, or that some players will be history.
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Tragic mistakes by the team in the second half.
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When the F*** is this team going to start playing hard the full game even if you're leading by two goals.
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And here it is 3:3