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I'd assume that Ivic's "clique" of bad boys wouldn't be chosen for this game...and that most of those left behind are just being rested. So who does this leave? Vellidis?

Hold up. What??

Legal action? On what basis? "The team that I am under contract to said I was a bad boy and had to practice with a different group of players who play on the same team" ?

Mistakidis is not "nowhere near the level" of Pelkas. He's a different kind of player, but has consistently been much more effective.

Tzavellas apparently refusing to train with youth team.

Well he's in Japan now, so clearly that's a no ;)

Oooh, I like this game! I agree with you on most, will just add comments for any different thoughts I have to yours. Goalkeepers Glykos - Rating 3 Brkic - Rating 3 Vellidis - Rating 3 - no better or worse than Glykos, who presumably is no better or worse than Brkic. One of Vellidis or Glykos may be part of this "clique," and we really don't need three starter-level keepers...time to let some guys go. Defenders Matos - Rating 4 - I think he's probably our best player (yes, even slightly better than Rodrigues). Leovac - Rating 3 - Compared to Matos, everyone's going to look like a turd. Better than Tzavellas, only a Matos-level guy can seriously be considered to replace him. Varela - Rating 3 - Average so far. Not sure if it's just him settling into the team. Has everything he needs, physically. Crespo - Rating 3 - has made some dumb mistakes, but better than I thought he'd be. Nothing amazing, but seems to have a good attitude. Will be nice to see him pairing with Varela. Tzavellas - Rating 3 - Lots of passion, but not worth the yearly drama. Can play both positions. Replaceable. Malezas - Rating 3 - Not worried when he plays, doesn't have the physical attributes of the two new guys, but I like him. Kitsiou - Rating 2 - Regressed. Will be easily eclipsed by Konstantinidis next season, I think. Giannoulis - Rating n/a, since he's played all of two matches this season. Needs to get loaned, especially if we're looking at a new LB. Midfielders Canas - Rating 4 - Very good player. Completely tireless. Calm, cool, collected. Cimirot - Rating 3 - I actually think he was better last year. Paired very nicely with Charisis. Shakhov - Rating 3 - playing as a CM, he's fine - and there are flashes that imply he's even better than he's looked so far. Looks lost when he plays as an AM. Charisis - Rating 2 - Regressed. Very talented, but has started to worry me. Pelkas - Rating 2 - Another player who's gone backwards. Biseswar - Rating 4 - the squad looks TOTALLY different when he plays. Fantastic passing. He desperately needs to get fit, we need him badly. Forwards Rodrigues - Rating 4 - We have no superstars on this team, but he's very impressive. If he were less wasteful, I'd peg him as best on the team...but Matos is a bit more consistent in his role. Mystakidis - Rating 2.5 - Similar regression as the other Greek players, but he gets some game time. When he's on, he's wonderful. Djalma - Rating 3 - I'm on the fence about him. I talk a lot of trash about Campos, but when he's on, he offers that right wing something completely different. Remarkably agile for someone who seems to be a solid block of muscle. Klaus - Rating 1.5 - We were just saying a few months ago that "this year he's gonna be fed properly." Well, either that hasn't happened, or he's just become garbage. Should be sold asap. Koulouris - Rating 2 - As Blackhawk says, he's essentially Klaus without the tattoos. More upside for Koulouris - if we sell Klaus, then keep him. If not, then us hiring a new striker this next window means he'll NEED to be loaned. Pereyra - Rating 3.5 - I agree with what you said about him being tricky to rate. I think he's better than most of our attacking players, and he can definitely play anywhere along that front line. I have a feeling that he might be related to the troubles Ivic spoke of.

That's acupuncture, bro. Mitso fixed up his horafia using that same technique.

This is assuming players do leave. Assuming Tzavellas is the leader of some group that's trying to oust the coach, he'd likely rather sit on his contract and take the bet that Ivic won't be around two months later anyway. If that happens, to truly get rid of him PAOK would have to pay out the remainder of his (and anyone else's who sides with him) contract, which would be very expensive. Personally, I think we'd be fine if we lost a good chunk of our guys. A stripped-down PAOK entering into the transfer window will be able to make some moves, and I have faith that in a league as garbage as the SL, we'd still be able to make it to the playoffs.

It looks like Michel is denying he's had contact with any other coaches.

Rodrigues and Pelkas apparently are fine and available. Pereyra is also available for this match.

Or if Chatziisaias pulls a Golasa and starts practicing with the team again...

It's real easy for someone like Tzavellas to get a group of people together that he can use to play these kinds of games. Plenty of the younger (Greek) players likely look up to him, and he only has to keep an eye out for who might be on the outs (Klaus? Charisis? Mistakidis?). This is all just supposition, but I can see it. Time for some hard choices by Savvidis. Personally, I'd be willing to dump half of our best players if it meant the remainder played for Ivic, as a team. The winter transfer window will be open very soon, depth isn't going become an issue prior to that. Also, it looks like Michel is already talking to possible new coaches. Whether this is a backup plan or something he's going to move forward with, I don't know. Tzavellas practicing with the youth team implies Ivic survived last night's meeting, but this can change immediately (and for Tzavellas, this exact thing happened with Anastasiadis).

I only saw the headline in passing (and now I can't find it), but I only took that to mean for right now. I do know Ivic was skyping with Savvidis, who is probably in Russia. Related: http://inpaok.com/329305

Watching the press conference now. He's pretty pissed.

Campos spinning like the ballerina we all know he is

Red card to Canas for hand ball in the box... -edit- with a penalty given as well, of course

How is my stream so far behind your guys...good poached goal by Mistakidis

Shakhov in for Pelkas

Apparently PAO's locker rooms are flooded?

Shakhov and Biseswar warming up, I'm going to guess that Biseswar will be making an appearance (with Campos out).

Mistakidis in for Rodrigues

Well now that you said that... PAOK 2-6 Atromitos

Another F***up by Koulouris

Nice little fakeout by Campos just now