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Regardless of what the reason was or wasn't bottom line we STUNK and we still have not played a GREAT match since the EQ and that should concern us all as I fear this disaster is not over for us and will continue. I'm watching Belgium play Rep of Ireland right now and they are crushing them 3-0, can you imagine what this team is going to do to us. After watching a lot of these teams at the Euro even the so called s%$#! teams at least they all look like they are playing with passion and heart something our boys are clearly lacking. On paper we should be at the Euro but in reality we have fallen apart. I'm not sure there is enough time to fix this mess before the WQ.

Let's say this is true that there is only 5-7 players that have talent, This still doesn't make sense why we've been so bad, because if you look at the teams we played against in the EQ NON of those teams had 5-7 players on the field with Talent, so by that logic we still should have topped our group. If you can play a system with a team that has 5-7 talented players on the field you should be able to stay and compete in most games and you shouldn't lose to Fisherman or Shitty Northern Ireland/Finland and so on. I believe this team does have talent, I think the problem is getting them to buy into a system that works and finding the right leader on the field to lead this group, someone vocal and someone that guys respect.

^ I get that, but as you know the way our players have played they don't deserve time off from the NT at all. We can't afford it.

^Aus I love your optimism but it wasn't even our main players that played that game, and to be honest since Skibbe has taken over we still haven't seen a game played with our most likely starters. We don't need to build a chemistry with guys that aren't going to play we need to do it with our main starters because unfortunately they lack chemistry together. Skibbe did a good job in the last game but I'm Afraid he has wasted way to many friendlies experimenting instead of building a system with the players we know are going to be our starters. That concerns me a lot. Time and friendlies have been wasted with tinkering when it should have been practice and and adapting to the style he wants us to play.

^How does the team look like it has a good bond? Based on what? One win? The win we got was with 80% of our starters not even playing, so how is that a good bond? When was the last time you've seen a squad that will resemble a line up at the WQ and you said they look like they have chemistry?

^ is that our next friendly vs Holland?

Is it done?

How much time left

Did Australia score

Do we know what are line up is yet?

Another wasted line up the serves no purpose and does not prepare us for the WQ. BRAVO

What a wasted opportunity in these two games to field a line up that would somewhat resemble our World Cup line in October and get valuable practice time togethore..

Let's wait and see how we do in our friendliest leading up the the campaign because right now Bosnia is the clear favorites over us and there is no Garuntee we will even beat Cyprus. If the team comes together and starts playing like we think they can then I would expect to see us beat Cyprus and Estonia and maybe draw Bosnia.

Our first game in the campaign is just over a few months away, we should be using these games to prepare ourselves, no more call ups, no more experimenting to such a wide margin, a little tinkering is okay, and enough call ups like Tziolis and garbage players. Let's stick with our core players that we know we will field and tinker with a few sub options and that's it. Why do the Greek coaches and company have to make things so difficult. We are not dismantling the entire team.

Am I wrong to think we should be playing our team that we plan to field in the WC qualifiers? Shouldn't we use these games as preparation for what we think our starting line up will look like and try to build a game plan and some consistency with the players?? So far I'm very disappointed and pissed at Skibbe and he's selections so far.. WTF does he think he's all of a sudden going to field a line up that he hasn't got to work with at the W/C qualifiers and we are going to be successful?

^ I really hope this coach works out and gets this team back to where we all believe they should be. It's frustrating because on paper we are a lot better then the majority of the teams we lost to. I hope we can figure this out soon because it's so hard not watching this team play in major tournaments.

you would think on paper we should be better then them and yes we beat them in our last qualifier, but considering they made the Euros and haven't lost to garage teams consistently like we have I wouldn't say we are better then them until we can prove we are better then mediocre teams.

I like your enthusiasm but what gives you so much confidence in Skibbe? I understand he needs to try players out but I think his choices and his system was horrible versus Iceland. I also wouldn't be so confident that we have a better team then Iceland because to be honest with you we shouldn't really be saying we are better then anyone right now.

100% Bosnia is better then Greece right now and have a better chance then us to go through. Who ever disagrees must take a look at Bosnia last 10 matches and our last 10 matches and that should put this debate to rest.

I don't disagree with what everyone is saying about Samaras, yes he needs to be in better shape and yes he needs to play against higher end talent, but to be honest I still haven't seen anyone on this team being able to control the pace and make something out of nothing. In my opinion as frustrating as he's been at times he still controlled the ball and created chances better then anyone we have now.

Qualify for the finals??? Of what the World Cup?? Please tell me you're not serious. As of right now we might have the players to some how squeak through to the World Cup ahead of Bosnia but even that will be a large task and probably not realistic at this point. If I misunderstood you then I apologize, but Greece does not have have the players on paper to qualify for the finals of the World Cup. No where close.

Good article

This is getting very frustrating, it's bad enough we have to deal with a s%$#! team and missing the Euros now we have to deal with this garbage.

Our fitness is not our main problem and it's not the reason we Suck right now. The reason we suck and we are getting out played is do to mainly not sticking to a certain style of play which causes confusion, trying out to many different combination of players therefore lack of chemistry, no confidence, and going through 3 coaches and an intern coach in less then a year, plus let's not forget losing a few of our veterans like samaras and Kara which hurt us.

^Damn it... But to be honest when was the last time we actually beat a half decent team? I would have to say it goes all the way back to the Ivory Coast so as much as I want to climb the FIFA standings we don't really deserve too.