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^Absloloutley agree with you Amorgos.. It's great to be positive and enthusiastic about the team start but people here are going to start calling us negative when we speak the truth. The truth is the team had looked like s%$#! to start the qualifier, when you give a team like Gibraltor prime scoring chances and allow them to score a goal and essential finish even wi them I. The second half then you've played like s%$#!, when you get out played by Estonia for almost 90minutes then you've played like s%$#!. Bosnia has dominated Cypres and Estonia and smashed Estonia 5-0. In my mind Bosnia will beat us if we continue playing like this. Now back to Katelis should only play CF as he is s%$#! as a winger.. I don't mind him and Mitroglou as CF. Skibbe has completely utilized the players the wrong way.

Guys the Bosnia game is so vital to our chance of qualifying I Think Skibbe needs to play the line he expects to use for the Bosnia game with maybe one or two tweaks. Let these guys play together as much as possible and work out any issues..

I totally agree and I don't think anyone is suggesting they hit 25th in the world and then relax.. I would love to see them first in the world but the reality is a top 20 finish is respectable.. Being better then before when we were in 10th is very doubtful Considering they way we still look on the field I think a top 20 is still difficult but doable..

I don't expect Greece to be in the top 10 anymore but I would be content with this team being in the top 20-25 going forward.

^lol, Thank you..

Guys start a new thread for this topic for F*** sakes.. I'm not from Australia and I don't really give a s%$#! to hear about your issues under a thread that is called ROAD TO RUSSIA. Lets talk about what the NT has to do to qualify and upcoming games.

Guys this is a topic on road to Russia why the F*** are you guys talking about this s%$#!? Open a new forum topic and have this convo in that thread not here.

You're probably right, in all fairness I haven't seen a lot of him at all, and maybe it's the guys around him but so far my honest opinion of what I have seen of him is he hasn't looked good, but either of a lot of others.

^Agree, This move will bite this unfit coach in the ass..

http://www.sport24.gr/football/England/PremierLeague/diplo-me-thn-gkolara-toy-xolempas.4319937.html#disqus_thread

You think we will finish ahead of Belgium? Are you serious? Our only chance to the World Cup is through 2nd place and a playoff. Belgium has first locked up.

^I don't know guys im not really liking bakesetas, he's done nothing in regards to the NT, I think I'd rather see someone else there. His first touch and passing skills doesn't look the good to me.

^i also tend to agree that we don't play well against the weaker teams and we tend to play down to our competition, hopefully against Bosnia the players step up and play there asses off. I feel like Greece has always played better when they're considered the underdog, but for some reason when they tend to be the favorites going into a game they don't play well, I'm really hoping this is the case for our poor play lately and the NT comes up huge in the big games against Bosnia and Belgium. One of the reasons I believe we didn't play well besides the obvious in the Euro qualifier is that we went in there excepting to jsut dominate the the group and thought it was going to be a breeze and that reflected in our play, and once 3-4 games settled in with losses it was such a shock and we couldn't turn it around. The Bosnia game is absoloutley crucial to get a win as that would put to 12 points to there 6 with some breathing room. We cannot lose this game under any circumstances if we want to control our own destiny for the WC.

Guys its great we won but please guys let's not forget who we beat. Playing the way we've played in all 3 games if we were to start against Bosnia, Belgium and Gibraltor then We would be 1 wins 2 losses, we have no chemistry no fluidity, our coverage is poor our passing is even worse, no one is asking for this team to turn into Germany we just believe we can play better and cleaner football. Everyone in my mind was poor in the Estonia game, some guys worse then others. I pray These guys are ready for Bosnia and Skibbe which I have no faith in makes the right selections for once.

I agree, we really need the stadium to be full and loud as this is our World Cup game, we need the Greek fans to come out and rock the s%$#! out of the stadium as we need this win more then than anything.

That's why Skibbes judgment continues to be questioned, don't kid yourselves and think the results changed because of Skibbe, bottom line is we were never as bad as the results were in the EQ, things were bound to start going our way with whoever was coach. From Raneri and Makaranian, Skibbe is definitely the worst when in regards to subs and staring line up. Skibbe thinks in big games against big team the likes of Tzavelas, Tziolis,maniatis is going to hold the fort? Is he serious? And now because of his personal issues with Holebas he mistreated him and now we are less one talented player which we can't afford to lose as we don't have many. How much better would our team be with Holebas in there and Ninis as bench option for fortounis if he gets injured and Kone as a bench option, now with those guys it gives some options and depth on the bench if certain players aren't clicking that day. As much as I want to be positive like some suggest it's very hard as this team is playing some ugly football against weak teams and it's going to get tiring fast watching teams dominate us all day on the field. say what you want about Bosnia I watched those games after and even they the beat Cyprus 2-0 late, they dominated them the entire game, and in the Estonia match I don't think Estonia had a shot on goal and I believe Bosnia beat them 5-0 so there defense held up as some suggest it's s%$#!, bottom line Bosnia loks way better then us on field to start the WQ. We need to change this fast.

If we play like they way we played against Estonia against Bosnia we will lose, yes we were missing some very key players but we didn't play all that well against Cyprus either. If Bosnia pressure us like Estonia did they will definitely score as they have way better finishers.

World class player no and I didn't mean it like that maybe bad choice of words, What I meant was compared to the players playing in his position he looks like a world class player and there is no reason anyone should be chosen over him. he's definitely one of the most talented players we have.

First off I don't blame Holebas at all, why should he continue with this NT when he is a world class player and Skibbe chooses to play hacks in his positions instead. He's given Holebas like 15 Minutes in the last 3 or 4 matches. I have no respect for this coach at all. This will bite us in the ass wait and see. A line up that includes Holebas is so much more dangerous for us especially on the counter. The 9 points is great, but let's be real Bosnia and Belgium will get 9 points against those 3 teams as well. I just heard the Skibbes press conference I truly can't stand the guy.

9 points is a perfect start... But for those of you who think everyone else is bitching even though we won, then I'm sorry to say but you have no soccer IQ as that was horrible soccer by the NT. We beat Gibraltor, Cyprus and Estonia.. If we didn't get 9 points then we should be embarrassed. Like I said 9 points is great but we have a long way to go and let's start by using the right players. Estonia had us under pressure most of the match. Even more troublesome is we couldn't even string two passes together and spread there defense of a minnow. we looked so sloppy. can you imagine playing against a team that has some finishers? We'd be F***ed.

Bosnia scores on a horrible giveaway by Cyprus. Bosnia1 cyprus0

Yes it was a nice free kick goal by Staf. But we still suck

Can u guys imagine what Belgium and even Bosnia will do to us? Didn't Bosnia beat this team 5-0.lol