J1078

Are you kidding me?? They have no defensive system, they have nobody backing each other up they're easily beat one on one. Look at all the space they give the openings out there, this team does not know how to close the gaps and play unified having each others backs if one guy makes a mistake. They look like lost puppies out there. They are completely out of position all the time. I agree they are not attacking because they can't. They need to become that team that doesn't give the opposition an inch of space, a team that suffocates the other teams players and only takes chances when we have the opportunity. If we don't do that and neglect our defense first mentaility then we will continue to lose against the weakest teams. Look at the match against Colombia we created a lot of chances we hit a few goal posts but we let in 3, look at the game against Finland we dominated the play but once again we conceded a goal We have allowed goals in almost every game and even worse we are allowing 3 goals against in 2 games versus FI, Northern Irleland have scored 5 goals against in 2 games. Are you starting to see a pattern?? I can go on on. Let's take a look at the main issue and get back to boring suffacting defensive soccer as it's the only way we can play.

For everyone out here that wanted to see Greece change there"boring style" of just defending and wanted to see this team open it up and be an attacking team, well you got half of your wish the team surely changed there style. Come on guys the only way for the Greeks to win is everyone collapses back and attacks when we get a chance or of a set piece. This is the only way Greece can play soccer and if you think otherwise you are kidding yourself. We don't have those offensive type of players. Sitting back and defending is our only way to get back to tieing and winning games maybe we don't deserve. If we continue to not play that way then we will continue to see results like tonight or like in the FI games. I'm pretty sure everyone here would be happy with a 1-0 win and some 0-0 draws rather then getting spanked and allowing at least a goal a game and losing to MINNOWS which sadly we have now become.

We scored big deal

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Boys we have officially become MINNOWS. This is not a fluke we are one of the worst teams in Europe

Everyone here that only think our forwards is the problem wake the F*** up our defence is just as bad

^ you were saying??

I'm lost for words.

Our defence is brutal

we are the absolute worst team, not only will we not qualify for the World Cup I don't see us qualifying again. What an embarrassment

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we are the absolute worst team, not only will we not qualify for the World Cup I don't see us qualifying again. What an embarrassment

Yes but once again we didn't

How does every team look so much better then us.

We suck

No fortounis?? Lol what idiots

I agree with Reaper, I don't think any of the Greek players are excited or even looking forward to playing any more games in this campaign. I think even if it's something minor that the players have they will use that as an excuse not to play. The passion and the excitement for putting on that Jersey and playing is evaporating quickly. You will see it again in the NI campaign watch the players body language it will show a lot. We need a coach quick to restore this team and start building trust in his team and players. We all talk s%$#! about our players including myself, but why is that they are performing so much better with there club teams and not performing at all with the NT. example Mitro scoring again Fortounis looks good just to name a few. The reason is because the atmosphere with the NT sucks. Any other campaign this game would be no big deal to us and the worst result for us maybe would have been a disappointing tie but now we look like minnows and NI look like Giants. Bottom line I'm not excepting to see an improved team against NI especially with the culture and attitude on this team right now and Tsanas leading the way. NEW COACH + NEW ATTITUDE -EPO = SUCCESS

I'm still so pissed about not getting Shuster and the Epo making it mandatory for the Tsanos to be part of this team I kind of hope we get pumped against NI just to prove a point. Maybe then the Epo will open there eyes and get rid of this garbage coach from having anything to do with the NT and finally let a new coach pic his staff and let them have full control.

These people must be the dumbest morons on the face of the earth. Good for Shuster for not taking the job. What the F*** has that idiot Tsanas done to deserve a spot as an assistant coach on the national team? He's a s%$#! coach in my opinion. Whats the point of wasting money to hire a coach that will not be allowed to coach why not just give the job to Tsanas and have a radio glued to his ass at all times so he can be given instruction on what to and not to do. This is a joke I'm so close to being done with this team.

I think they new manager should come in the day after the Euro ends for us. I think just to start fresh with no ties to this disaster would be ideal. Just use Tanas for now and hopefully we start the day after our Hungary game by announcing our new head coach. Oh ya and regardless what his results are we need to stick with one guy enough with changing coaches every couple months.

If we had proven players then I would agree 100% we would need to play them. At the moment since we are elimanted from the Euros now is the time to give guys a shot and see what they can do until we find something we are comfortable with. JVC what else choice do we have right now? We still have to field a line up. We can't fold the NT and not play any games. Why not take this opportunity and try out some guys that are doing good for there club teams. We need to keep the obvious- Kpaps,Socrat,toro,mono,holebas,Kone,karnezis, in my mind this is our core that must lead the team and start every game. Now I have left a few out which may fit with these guys but for the most part these boys need to be our core we build around. As far as the other positions this is were we need to give some guys a try until we figure out what the best line to field going into the World Cup. Guys we still have some good pieces we are NOT as s%$#! as we showed this campaign IMO. That's why I'm rely hoping first a new coach builds a structure and only then he can pick guys that he thinks will fit his structure and vision. In this qualifier there was a lot of confusion on the pitch and guys didn't know there role. Look at the Netherlands they have great pieces yet they look like s%$#!. Let's start with the coach and a system first and then let's truly judge the players when there is a system in place and they know what there role is. Right now it's very hard to judge anyone because nobody knows there role everyone is trying to do everything themselves. I agree the players need to take responsibility but if there is no structure and no system then any team is beatable.

I think I would go with more of a lose cannon coach and the reason is because a coach like that who is hard headed will want to do things his way and he won't listen to Tanas is messages from the Epo.

^i agree with most of the things you are saying, especially the part where the national team needs to be for established players that are doing something right with there club team. But let's analyze something for a second, take a look at our group even though we had s%$#! players playing are you telling me our s%$#! players are not better then the Faroe island players? Or Hungary or Finland or even NI? Of course they are which leaves me to believe that there was something else in the middle of this s%$#! campaign. Now don't get me wrong yes we have taken huge steps back and right now it looks like we will never win another game and we have a lot of work to do. But don't you guys agree at all that something else played a huge roll in our disasterous campaign? Our line up had unproven and many s%$#! players enter but even so we still should have been better then the teams we faced. we still have good players, in fact we still have better players then any other team in our euro group. So I believe the problem is deeper then JUST the players that caused this horrible campaign.

I would take him

^ maybe that's what they need a "Maniac" how well did they perform with the soft spoken Makaranain or the lifeless Ranieri? Don't you think our players would take advantage of a soft spoken players coach? I do. Putting some fear in the players is not always a bad thing. Do you guys think if we had a firm no nonsense coach there would of been a scrap at the World Cup with our players? Don't you think we need someone that's going to push these guys to the max? After this dreadful campaign and dreadful drop in the Fifa rankings these guys deserve a strict coach. At the end of the day say what you want about the coaches but forget about the two previous coaches and some of there F***ed up decisions, the coaches were not at fault for the 2 losses to the FI it was the players fault, it shouldn't have mattered which players were selected in those games, those losses are solely on the players not the coach. The older crop of players and veterans we had responded well to a players type coach but these Prima Donna Mykonos partying boys need a strict baby sitter that is going to be tough on them.