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here we go!!!! please don't concede early Greece...

Bosnia 5-0 Gibraltar Final.

ε διάταξη 4-2-3-1 παρατάσσει την Εθνική ο Μίχαελ Σκίμπε στην αναμέτρηση με το Βέλγιο στο πλαίσιο της 5ης αγωνιστικής της προκριματικής φάσης του Παγκοσμίου Κυπέλλου 2018. Ο Ομοσπονδιακός τεχνικός προχώρησε σε μία έκπληξη, καθώς προτίμησε τον Παναγιώτη Ταχτσίδη στη μεσαία γραμμή αντί των Κάρλος Ζέκα και Γιάννη Μανιάτη. Ο μέσος της Κάλιαρι θα έχει για παρτενέρ τον Ανδρέα Σάμαρη, με τον Κώστα Φορτούνη να αγωνίζεται πίσω απ' τον μοναδικό προωθημένο, Κώστα Μήτρογλου. Θυμίζουμε πως ο Ταχτσίδης απουσίασε απ' το παιχνίδι της Εθνικής με τη Βόσνια & Ερζεγοβίνη τον περασμένο Νοέμβριο λόγω προβλήματος τραυματισμού. Αναλυτικά η ενδεκάδα: Καπίνο, Τοροσίδης, Μανωλάς, Παπασταθόπουλος, Τζαβέλλας, Σάμαρης, Ταχτσίδης, Σταφυλίδης, Φορτούνης, Μάνταλος, Μήτρογλου. Στον πάγκο βρίσκονται οι: Γλύκος, Κυριακίδης, Οικονόμου, Μανιάτης, Τζιόλης, Σιώπης, Ζέκα, Μανθάτης, Ανδρούτσος, Γιαννιώτας, Μπακασέτας, Διαμαντάκος, Βέλλιος.

@Nikitas yes my bad.

Sport24 is saying Greece is going with 4-2-3-1 Kapino Τzav---------------------Sok---------------- Man-----------Toro Samaria-----------Maniatis/Zeca Staf--------------Fortounis----------Manta Mitro

Anyone from Toronto the game is televised on sportsnet world.

you guys can almost guarantee the Zeca will be in this game at some point. There's no way they went to so much trouble to get him and not play him. Even though I'm not a big fan of the guy we might as well put him in and see what he has to offer. We have nothing to lose. Since they have a hard on for this guy lets see if they're right lets see what he can bring.

so who in total is confirmed out for Belgium??

I agree, all parking the bus will do is give Belgium half the field to work with and full possession of the ball to set up plays to break down our defense. It's a bad mentality because when you give a team like that possession they will eventually score some goals. You need to field a fast line up with a defense first mentality but are willing to attack as a group and put some pressure on there back end so that they will think twice about pushing everyone forward. If we play scared and just get rid of the ball when we get it then we will get destroyed.

We scored 2 goals against Estonia and one lucky goal against Bosnia and you think we are going to score 2 versus Belgium?? Don't be surprised if Greece doesn't get the ball past there half with any kind of possession.

The next two games versus Belgium And Bosnia will show how bad of a coach Skibbe is. I do understand it's not all Skibbe as the players need to take responsibility for there play as well but he has been so lucky upto this point and realistically we should have lost at home against Bosnia. Even Estonia had chance after chance against us and we were lucky two walk a way with a win. Gibraltar even made history against us scoring there first goal in a tournament.

It sucks if he's out, but to be honest we have no chance this match anyways and realistically with or with out him we are looking at a defeat. Lets just hope he's back for the Bosnia game which is our true do or die game.

^ I agree. And yes we are lacking depth and a true leader eespecialy in our Mid positions but let's be honest there is something a lot more going because the teams we lost to shouldn't have really mattered how much talent we had in our mid position. The teams we lost to don't even come close to the players we have on the field. The teams you mentioned above that we lost to should be proof of that. If Fortounis and Mantalos play in Europe for a decent side I can't see them getting the minutes that they are getting now but if they did then it would benefit them for sure. I'm one of the few that is still completely disappointed how we've played this campaign and I only think it's a matter of time before we completely get exposed. I still think this team is going to have issues for years and our FIFA rankings will continue to be where we are now. I also don't think Skibbe is the guy who can turn this club around and I'm pretty sure that will show in our nhouse story couple of matches.

Right now Greece deserves to be in that spot and I don't think we deserve to be any higher at this point.

Even if he gets called up what does he really bring to the team? is he really an upgrade or is his temper liable to cost us a match? I'm not sure why Skibbe has a hard on for this guy. I do agree we need some new guys and a change in this line up as it has performed like s%$#! up until now but I don't think Zeca is the answer or change we need.

I totally agree anything less then 3-0 would be a miracle.. unfortunately this will be the game that shows our flaws and truly what we are as we've been playing very poor soccer this entire campaign but no one has been able to take advantage of how poor we've played. I totally expect Belgium to lay a beating on us. And for all of you that think I'm just talking negative I'm not, I'm speaking the truth. Tell me one game this campaign where after the game we've said "wow they looked good today"? Not once.. An elite level team like Belgium will have there way with us. We need to focus on how we are going to get better to take points in Bosnia as that is our only path to the World Cup.

I wish him the best. He played well for the NT when he was with us. Above and beyond that the guy is a solid guy and cares about the less fortunate especially children. Good luck to him. Regardless of how well he plays I don't think we'll ever see him on the NT again.

We will not get a point against Belgium, they will dominate us from start to finish and put a couple by us. My only hope is to draw against Bosnia and only lose two games this qualification both being against Belgium. I'm also hoping Belgium beat Bosnia in Bosnia. I dont think anyone can take points off Belgium in this group. We are still playing poor ball while Belgium looks great and very dynamic..

@Dean97 I agree with you completely but the only problem is that this coach isn't even considering Ninis,Fetfa,Kone and Pelkas that's the problem. Why hasn't he given them a chance?? We have such potential talent that is not being called up which says a lot about this coach IMO.

^I disagree.. I like the fact that we've gotten results and I like the fact that we are in a pretty good position but I have to totally disagree with you regarding Skibbe, I think he's made horrible choices with playing players out of there normal positions, His player choices, his call ups and the guys he chooses to sub in. realistically we've out played Gibraltar, but other then that we've been outplayed by Cyprus, Estonia and Bosnia which we should have lost to be honest. In my opinion if Skibbe keeps going with this line up and does not call up guys that we've all mentioned then the teams luck will run out and we will start losing games again if Skibbe doesn't change things quickly.

^Great the two biggest games in our campaign coming up and he's out. Lets hope there is no injuries to our defence or we are screwed.

^ got it.. I still think Kone would be an asset and give us a good option. Our depth coming off the bench is horrible.

I hope you're talking about Tzoilis, Maniatis, Tzav ? because if you're referring to Ninis, fetfa and Kone The other 2 especially have played a lot less.

Yes Fetfa should play in Europe, but let's be realistic we have 3 guys on our team that don't even play for a club team and because Fetfa isn't playing in Europe all off a sudden he doesn't get called up? At least he's playing regularly.. where is the logic in that thinking? Fetfa,Ninis,Kone and yes even holebas should be on this team period.

Even though he hasn't been great for us lateley Mitro has to start.. also Vellios is not good IMO.. I would love to see Kone have a shot and Fetfa on the bench as well as Ninis.. I don't think is would but Petsos in for this game either..