RED SHERIFF

Bakakis is not in the toro class never will be.. Mitro is our best striker....Klaus our second best.....this is the sad reality.. Vellios...Diamantakos etc are still mils behind...

Ukraine had no decent strikers.....apart from his bad case of hair loss...

really poor reaction by messi. At 29, he should go the next WC....Then give it up.. I can imagine by 31 ..he may have had enough of Copa America...but worth another WC tilt..

Fortounis is best as the no. 8 or no.10... Vlaxodimos is miles away from NT call up... pelkas and Mystakidis are not in contention at this point..

@klaous I think you totally misunderstood Ge Bekli's post..

Spain had unemployment in the mid 20% between 2008-2012...they won 2 euros and a WC... Sorry to disappoint you...Holebas, Kone, Manolas, Sokratis, Vyntra and co.....have not suffered or lost sleep over Greek debt crisis.. Fortounis and Mitro on mega bucks + per year in their early to mid 20s and as much pussy as they want were not affected by any morale issues... the problems were they were caught unawares mentally poorly prepared after a WC success...dropping points early...and Santos not blooding younger players properly in the team

easy into Q3

PAS have a weakened squad.... Manias, Ilic gone too...

Panionios have an Iranian Intl. striker...what marketing good has it done for them?

you are lucky aek66 that you are not Australian... highlighting shortcomings in the domestic game would have you branded a danger equal to ISIS.... Having said that ...the MLS and The American footballer is light years ahead of the average Aussie and the A League... I need to be careful saying that...any negativity (realistic comments) about pleasantville is frowned upon..

I would say even if the players were from Kavala and OFI and NOT being paid ..they will still bust their gut to play well for the NT....As it could open the door for them to get better contracts and feed their families...

i saw that and shook my head.... I actually back Mavrias to be the next RM if he finds his feet.....In the same way I think Bouchalakis could be our next DM...

i would not take much notice of what they say in Greece on these issues.. Greeks are the ultimate negative talkers... the players ARE ALL WELL PAID......You should know this.....the fact you quoted this from your family vindicates they are very poor in football knowledge.. let me ask you this question... how come the economic situation did not hinder them from being a kick away from a WC QF??? Do you realise we lost to Faroe Islands at home 120 days after the penalty shoot out loss to CR?? We need to be careful not to fall for the 'greek trap'.

he is being paid more than the entire WSW salary cap to play in Qatar....why would he come to ALeague? And why would any Greek soccer fan want Greece NT players playing in the A League...?? Moras aside who is 35 and no longer should be an NT player...he also fits the age demographic for A League imports.. I would be devastated if Kone, Fetfa, Lazaros played here before they turned 33...

Comparing Soviet Union and Yugoslavia to EU is ridiculous... As is comparing Switzerland and Norway to Greece.....

WELL ITS NOT A BAD RULE

he does not.... but at times Vellios looked like a pub player compared to what Mitro can do as a striker.... Vellios ran and hustled but as a striker that would potentially score...he was garbage..

for me the certain starters in the 11 are karnezis, toro, xolebas, sokratis, manolas, samaris, fortounis, mitro.. that leaves 3 spots for 10-15 players to fight for..depending on form, formations, tactics, opponents..etc..

Pelkas has a long way to go before he can be compared to fortounis or regarded as a starter in the 11

Serbia did the damage in Macedonia between 1900-1950...they then backed it up symbolically in the 1990s .. Greece non recognition of Kosovo is interesting in the sense that we have read comments previously that we don't want to set a precedent for TRNC? The thought of approaching Tirana and Washington over Kosovo is a great idea... however we are currently governed by Che Guevara...Tsakalotos had ancestors who fought in the greek civil war...He has been reported as saying that his great uncle fought for the wrong side....(the side that won)... I get called a crazed fascists when I describe SYRIZA as bitter left overs from the losing side in 1947...History can't be rewritten and perhaps the truth hurts some...and perhaps Hellas is still paying for it today... (As we are on the eve of Euro 2016).....perhaps if in1947 things went the other way...Dellas, Vryzas, Charisteas may have not been part of Euro 2004...or perhaps they may have worn a darker shade of blue....with red socks...

excellent post... sadly a lot of greeks would be happy with the idea of turning our back on NATO/EU and siding with Milosevic.. many still tell me today..we should have jumped in bed with slobodan and divided Vardaska..

I know the aussie team very well...and the aussie football system... they are better than Finland and Hungary..... Leckie is also very good.... they lack overall depth and talent...and get fooled very easily by a transfer to a 'eurpoean club',,,,some nobody signs in Norway or Denmark and suddenly they are called up... the junior development path here is very poor....kids at a young age do not learn the game properly....that's why the Greece NT looked more comfortable with ball at feet..

Greece will not become largely private, capitalist economy....(we do not have the correct structure or will) the whole 'sovereignty' line is a typical Greek socialist anti Imperialism propaganda.. it does not really mean what its meant to mean....the EU has provided greece with billions that we have not been able to take advantage of..

Skibbe mentioned after the game that we need to sharpen our defence on set pieces.. Manolas will help..so to K.Pap.... Our players looked a lot more skillful with their first touch than normal.....not sure because this is an area that aussies are very poor and it made us look good... We bossed a lot of this match..on our terms...playing the style we enjoy... from an Aussie perspective... they can't play .... ..............Milligan............... ......Rogic...............Mooy Leckie.......Cahill...........Kruse against European opponents....not enough ball winners or cover....and it showed.... Aussies need to be more conservative against better opponents.... Jedinak will be 34 and Milligan 33 by WC.....They may struggle by then... Burns is not cut out for this level...nor is Apo Jaannuu .. Vellios lacks pace....too much of an old fashioned CF.......Mitro......and Klaus are still better strikers.....I think either one would have scored over these two matches..

I watched them train last night for around half an hour at Lakeside...pretty poor turn out of fans really... I think this will be the last time we see greece here for at least 20 years...