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What ?! I didn't see that coming. I mean I get it, now that we have Brkic we don't need 3 GK's but still I would've thought a loan move would've happened instead.

Necid, may he do well at Legia, because he sure as hell didn't do well at PAOK.

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As a sub, yeah maybe, but definitely not starting. I'm worried it'll kill the kid. I remember when he was put in last season straight from signing for us, where he was shaky, which is fair enough, but he got crucified. I really like him and I really rate him, but he needs kid gloves for a while. Ivic has won my confidence so I'm hoping he has a plan for him.

Regarding the toleration of alt-facts, it's not the place of anyone here to edit such. People can post what they want regarding what they think are facts, and others can dispute them. Lord knows I've read lots of crazy facts in this thread and others. If you really think your warning was not deserved, take it up with Supermods, athinaios or pash, or Lazarus. Regarding expressions like "libturds", yeah, they're not ideal. But remember, not every word and every sentence is monitored on this forum. Just what we come across or what is reported. So, you know ... help me to help you and all that. "attention whores" is just slang, are we really going to start barring that expression ? Afraid ? No, just trying to help make the "discussion" in this thread a little more civil, if such a thing is even possible. You say you're trying to stand up to racists and bigots. Cool! I concur! Just make sure you can actually identify a racist first because I'm beginning to doubt your ability to. Apparently, I'm covering up for racists which would make me a racist. Yep, sure, cool.

Varela, if anything you'd rest with Malezas. It's a bit risky to throw Chatzi into the mix at this stage, just when the team is finally beginning to hum with a series of wins. And with the Schalke game coming closer a slip up is the last thing we need. Besides, if Chatzi cracks under the pressure it'll seriously damage his confidence. Better to use him towards the end of the season or even next season.

You got a warning, by me, because you said "I know you won't like this but it's people like you that F***ed up this country!". That is not a point of fact. And besides, others probably think the same thing about you and your beliefs. These sort of posts are the type of posts that lead to slanging matches which are fun for those participating (I've been in a few and LOVED them) but just degrade the quality of the thread overall and turn people away. If you really think someone is ruining the country maybe word it better and explain how. Who knows, you may even win a convert one day.

@paokarag4 ha ha, he better be good. I don't know what the club saw in him, but you could say that for all our signings this year. The one thing that gives me some comfort is that our signings under Michel/Ivic have been for the most part sensible.

Neither is NT material, except for maybe if you're playing teams like Malta or dare I say it Faroe Islands. Both of them were put into the first team squad last season by Tudor and both showed some good signs. This season they have both stagnated and haven't improved at all. The time to make their mark is in the next two to three seasons. We shall see. NT football is a different beast and I don't know if either of them can cope with it.

Regarding computer games be they FIFA, Football Manager or something else, if they do use algorithms, they must be quite primitive. I believe, though I can't be sure, that no such algorithms are used, at least not to generate the base statistics for a player. Instead, it's as pash suggested that these companies have fans of the games who are volunteers. I know for example that these boys here http://www.fmgreece.gr/phpBB3/viewforum.php?f=14 liaise with the company that makes Football Manager and give their recommendations on player statistics. If you click around on some of the players on that forum you can see that they talk about increasing or decreasing a particular statistic. How/if this gets into the actual game database I'm not sure. One thing I have noticed is that when a player transfers in real life from a lower league to a higher league, in the next update of the database their attributes all of a sudden, shock horror, increase. Not always, but often enough that you think to yourself, maybe their attributes were understated to begin with just because the player played in a lower league. Watch if the rumoured transfer of Milivojevic to England happens. All of sudden next season his "attributes" will all increase by quite a bit. At least, that's what I've seen a lot of in the past. Note: Never played FIFA but spent too many hours playing Football Manager years ago.

Time to brew up a pot of herbal tea and relax a little. I won't issue another warning since you got one for an earlier post. Peace.

Elbowed the guy in the nuts. Check out http://inpaok.novasports.gr/VideoId/40446/ ~1:10.

These are the games where we used to just fall apart. Good result, but importantly, good performance.

Some funny comments on inpaok https://inpaok.com/335970/η-γαλατά-δεν-μπορεί-να-πληρώσει-τον-παο/ regarding Galatasaray not being able to make the first installment on February 1. Αν μας δωσουν την τραπεζουντα να το καθυστερησουμε ! Άει σιχτίρ, μεμέτια ... (by someone who has a Charles Bronson avatar, big respect on the avatar). Τους δίνουμε άλλο 1,5 και τους παίρνουμε Σνάιντερ. Γιατί όχι;

Good luck to both Tziolis and Skondras. Both good boys that as far as I know never made trouble and gave it their best. That's all I ask. Regarding Rodrigues ... I've always found it bizarre how transfers work in the world of football. I mean, as part of any transfer the payment for the player should be made in full (just like for any normal transaction) before you get the "goods". If the buying club has to secure a loan to do so, that's there problem. But not in football, for some reason. Now if they can't get a loan, not our problem. Like I said, bizarre. So what can PAOK do now, legally that is ? And in what time frame ?

Big call. HUGE call! I hope you're right! But I agree with what you're saying regarding the transfers ie. it seems to be more structured overall.

Just kill me. Why would we loan at Pereyra ? What if there's an injury ...

Maybe it's possible Tsipras made it look like he wanted to hand them over to Erdogan, when in fact he didn't want to and had confidence the judicial decision would "tie his hands" so to speak. Just saying, that's the smart move politically.

There's no reason why we can't play with 2 up front, especially against sides that park the bus. Hopefully Prijovic is an aerial threat which will create more space for Klaus/Koulouris/Pereyra.

What a saga. I don't know who is doing the negotiating for PAOK (rumour has it the guy in the photo) but it looks like Rennes got everything they wanted and more. At reported 800K wages I hope Henrique is as good as his wage suggests.

With Prijovic we've got, what, maybe one decent one, ha ha. We'll see.

I can't wait to see the spin machine go into overdrive once Trump's plans don't go the way he said they would.

Agree, I should think that the model of Turkey and Russia is terrible and not to be emulated. As for Greece being unfriendly to business, that's been the case for decades. It's been great to small business but anything larger than a small family business is hamstrung. Decades to make the mess, decades to fix it. Anyway, getting severely off topic as this doesn't have much to do with the αλάνι Tzavellas.

I wonder what the club actually makes in terms of revenue. That is, is Savvidis basically supporting the club from his own pocket and by how much ? Or in other words, what is the true, self sufficient, financial state of the club.

Sheez, our wages have gone up! I'd like to know what our wages have been for the last ~10 or so years because even say 3 years ago we didn't have players being paid more than 200K or 300K. Now 500+ for quite a few players.