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I really liked JVS as a human. He seems like a good guy and he always said it as it is. A straight-shooter. He's right what he says about EPO. We all know its corrupt as F***. Canadians/Dutch don't put up with this kind of thing. Its not in their DNA. Truth is, however, he didn't get the team into Euro 2020 or WC 2022. There were some bad losses and ties to countries we should have beaten with our eyes closed. I have no clue why Greece has always stunk against minnows but is always respectful, if not great, against the giants. People mention the good times of Otto and Santos but forget how many times we had to eek out a win against the Lichenstein's of the world in extra time. The problem is in the mentality of the players. You have to approach every game as a must win situation and take no team for granted. Corruption has to be abolished. How do small countries like Croatia, Serbia, Belgium, Portugal, etc., do it? They have smaller and/or equal populations to Greece but they are ages ahead of us... I hope the new generation in Greece which seems to be less corrupt and much more innovative moves in and clears the scum out of EPO so some respectability can be put into place. I'm gutted by the current state of affairs. I never in my life thought I would see the day where I would watch Canada's national team play and think, "holy crap! this team would smoke Greece if they played today".

Bravo Olympiakos big win! Beating the Turks again! Still a chance at top spot in the group..

Big win! Hoping for first place in group and hopefully better seeding.

I wish they would bring in a big name experienced coach but like u said that most likely wont happen. I have a lot of respect for Santos and what he did for the Ethniki. He was with in penalties off taking Greece to the quarter finals of the wcup! He had a great record and the defensive pieces to play his style of football. I have a feeling they will go with a Donis or Dellas but I am seeing on some sites that EPO want a foreigner. Anyways JVS started brightly but his questionable player selections & tactics screwed us. 6pts dropped in games we were leading in the 2nd half to Kosovo & Georgia (who are an up and coming side)would have taken us over Sweden. Just pisses me off seeing Sweden in the playoff draw today and they avoided Italy and Portugal.

It’s a tough call right now, I’m worried they will go after a low budget coach. I started thinking maybe a Greek coach that has a better understanding of Greek football Like Donis but it also worries me that a Greek coach will be completely controlled by the EPO. We know for certain we are not going to hire a big name coach number one we don’t have the budget and number two I don’t think a big name would come here. Santos is an interesting name to bring back but as I mentioned before I don’t think he has the players that can make him and his style successful. Especially since Santos will for certain play a less attacking and a more defensive style. Valverde might be okay but there’s no one I’m jumping out of my chair for right now.

Their own coefficient is probably more important. They are now at #42. A win brings them in the top 40 teams. Might bring them a pot higher at draws (only in CL or EL).

Good, EPO took along time they should have let him go right after the Kosovo disaster.

Looks like he’s heading to Man Utd. I new he was good. Very intelligent coach. https://www.sport24.gr/football/mantsester-gioynaitent-symfonise-me-rangknik-gia-na-analavei-ypiresiakos.9438338.html

The battle for #15 hasn’t be as great as now. It is very tight between #15 and #20: 15 Greece 5.100 5.100 4.900 5.100 5.750 25.950 2/ 4 16 Turkey 6.800 5.500 5.000 3.100 5.500 25.900 3/ 5 17 Cyprus 7.000 6.125 5.125 4.000 3.625 25.875 2/ 4 18 Denmark 5.250 4.875 5.125 4.125 6.400 25.775 4/ 5 19 Croatia 5.125 5.750 4.375 5.900 4.500 25.650 1/ 4 20 Czech Republic 5.500 6.500 2.500 6.600 4.500 25.600 3/ 5 #15 gets Q2 CL for the runner up in the League and Q3 for the cupwinner!

With the run England is making this year PAOK wil be overtaken tomorrow by every single English club in the coëfficiënt ranking. We have 20.000 and the small English sides now have the country coëfficiënt of 19.970. A win for either Arsenal or United is enough.