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To non-Greek/Aussies, Ange P won the title as captain of a team named South Melbourne, the Greek population in Melbourne as a city is the largest outside of Athens. He was an excellent CB but blew his knee I believe and retired in his mid-late twenties. He coached Brisbane in the Aleague to multiple titles, got the national job and coached (with short preperation) at the World Cup 2014..that alone is a great experience. Wasn't looked after enough by the Australian EPO named FFA, and so when Socceroos qualified for 2018, he then went to Yokahama instead of his second World Cup in 2018. He would of done better than Bert Van Marwijk did-no idea honestly. When Greece came out a couple of year ago, Ange was walking out the tunnel for the second half of one of the two matches they had vs Socceroos, he was talking to Samaris and Sokratis another time I believe, he knows most Greek players well. There is a strong desire for him to coach Ethniki at a reduced contract. This guy knows how to coach 3 at the back with quick wingbacks or four at the back. He like coaching players with speed as much as reasonably possible (Jedinak had different qualities. He chopped up attacking raids beautifully and intimidated offenses, regardless of the fact he wasn't the most accurate passer on the counter attack). The fact Ange P has vision and speaks fluent Greek and has a great knowledge of the Greek Super League, speaks volumes. He also coached Socceroos on tour in Asia and in England and where they lost 1-0; He has more on his resume that Ouzounidis and Dellas. I would back him in to do a fine job if he was chosen. I think EPO will go for Ouzounidis personally.

Pretty sad that even 2004 guys are not respected but at the same time, I thought Stelios and Basinas would have helped create chemistry and moral or work with Anastasiadis to get things in order, from what has been reported this has been the most unorganized campaign ever but that does not add up as a training session was called with a couple of friendlies before the two games with Italy and Armenia, so why would Anastasiadis and co do that but have no plan what so ever for that time in Holland... The other part is our players have become pre-madonas and the dressing room is really back to the dark ages but heavily due to ego not club affiliation, a lot of this does not make sense., I am sure there is details we dont know. Anastasiadis said great things before hand but his erratic player choices and tactics look to have back fired, but again, are our players that undisciplined that the first sight of hard work turned them against the coach? There has to much more to all this

Athanasiadis is now in. I assume Barkas will be sold. Rumors of Roma offering 8 million Euros. Seems fair and could go a long way to filling some gaps. Athanasiadis/Tsintontas are a solid duo in goal. Bakasetas on his way to Turkey for 800,000 Euro. Seems like a fair amount for him. Need to bring in some more bodies.

5 coaches and an epic donkey show for the last almost 5 years. They definitely aren't going about it wrong when years of their playing careers are being wasted away with clowns. They only get one career, and sokratis is already in his 30s, so I don't blame them for taking a stand. And let's not kid ourselves, there were already questions about this coaches ways and the issues he's already had with players. I don't care what they're doing on the field, they're being asked to do ridiculous things and stop 100 bazillion attacks every game and with little to no offensive help. You think guys like pelkas just sit there after constantly being played out of position and don't speak up to the vets. And obv the vets look at the situation and know that guys are being asked to do things that they aren't used to, then get benched when they struggle. Yet donkeys like tzaveshit, tsioshit and bakashitas get infinity chances no matter how dog s#it they are. Why you think holebas quit? You really wanna fly out from England (where he starts every week) to play 3rd fiddle to guys that can't lace up his cleats? So ya of course morale has gone down to the toilet, no one can stand watching it anymore, including the players who id say know the game pretty well. No we're not a world beater team, but we have some very good talent in the pool that we all know doesn't get used. Everyone remember what happened when we put all our skill on against hungry? They needed to win and we didn't and we took them to town, yes our defense wasn't great but it didn't matter cause our offense was. Time to παιχε μπάλα ⚽ the old d schemes are gone, too many skilled players in the world now to just lock it down, you have to be able to push back. A good offense is a good defense, teams can't score if they don't have the ball. We don't have a great offense, but we do possess one, and it's time it was given a chance.

PAOK TV just released the highlight reel for Lambrou.... The kid is GOOD. He plays LW, but can also play on the right. He has speed, dribble, a great header and good crosses. I think him and Jaba with Akpom up front and Biseswar or Pelkas in the 10 position are gonna terrorize defenses next season. If we DO get 2 top shelf midfielders I think we'll be in really good shape. Hopefully Mauricio is in good form next season, and it seems Wernbloom is on the fast track back, but with his age and type of injury, I wouldn't count on his finishing a season without significant time lost to re-injuries. We need 2 BAM quality signings at midfield.

Ange P changed from four at the back to three and beefed up the midfield. Socceroos took an age to master this philosophy due to lack of finishing in the front third and wrong options taken with the back three., but got there, the World Cup 2018, the long way. At Yokahama, he opted to use four at the back as it was the most suitable option there. He was abit too advanced in ideas for the Socceroos at the time. Greece may well adapt to this better, and definitely more so than Ange A's philosophy. Ange P will pick the right players in their rightful positions. He won't ask Siovas to play LB only one hour before kick off. Instead, they will work on the new formations repeatedly till they wake up and have it with their cereal in the mornings. Donis, Mitroglou and Lamprou/Limnios or Chatzigiovannis, are more than capable as a front third than Leckie Juric and Kruse were (thankfully that roos front third has changed). The Greek back four with a firing Toro, Manolas, Sokratis, and Koutris/Lykogiannis, or, back three with Manolas, Sokatis and Toro, with two Fast wingbacks should get there in reasonable time. This may suit Toro better cause his role would be as a left CB rather than in a quick LB role.

The only thing I worry about Postecoglou is that he likes to play attacking football and we don't have the players for that. The last time someone tried that was with Ranieri and we all know how that turned out. I don't blame the senior players for acting the way they did, they are professionals, being unprepared for a big game in not acceptable. Asking Siovas to play left back 1 hr before that game when he never played that position is crazy.

Your kidding yourself if you think we're capable of beating Finland twice! Agona Sport have given me free credit to watch the Finland game in September, which is the only reason I'm going to watch. I imagine its going to be at least a 2-0 loss.

I would take him and as a SM Hellas fan I would welcome it. What we need is someone that can step into the fold and bring a semblance of stability to the friggin squad. Someone that can get the best from the players. Identify the best Greek players, by skill and speed for each position. I’m sure half the people on this forum can do that. Decide on a formation, give the inexperienced players roles and only play the ones that are ready. A good coach would know who can and who can’t. We need to find 2 players one on the left and one on the right of Fortounis that can play with him. Not Bakasetas, not Pelkas and not Masouras. Pelkas is a backup and Masouras a sub for now. It’s time to look at L. Lamprou, Limnios. Masouras has shown glimpses but lacks a clear head. E.g. shoots when he should pass and passes when he should shoot. This isn’t good for a forward. He also shuts his eyes when going for headers and the ball hits his shoulders or he misses it completely. He needs to work on his deficiencies otherwise he won’t succeed at international level or at Oly. We need to sort out the midfield and our DM has to play as a DM. This position is killing us. If Samaris, Zeca or Kourbelis cannot, then bring in someone that can. When Soc started he was a DM. DM is the link between defence and attack, it’s a role that requires speed and concentration. It’s the role that thwarts the opposition attacking play. It is ideally suited to a mentally tough, intelligent and fit player. Not half injured, lazy and clueless players. This player must work closely with the coach and vise-versa. A good coach must have a good understanding of what he wants from the DM. He must be trusted. Anything less is unacceptable. Think about the last game and who was marking Mkhartarian. No one. Gekas wasn’t playing but was getting called up. I remember we beat Latvia 5-2 and he was not playing for 6mths and scored 3. You can call up some players like this that are proven as long as they are fit. In our case we need to do this where there are no other options. Some players you call up because they are the best you got. Mitroglou and Torosidis should have been called. Mitroglou was not injured just not playing enough. They are 30 and 32 respectively and are not yet finished. Nor is Soc. We need these guys as they give us experience and stability. It doesn’t matter Mitroglou doesn’t touch the ball. He is better than anything else we got for now and commands respect on the field. Koulouris is ok but inexperienced. He is young and can be used as a sub for now. If Mitroglou injured then Koulouris is next best option. Donis is perfect on the right or as the 2nd forward in a 4 4 2 formation. Any half brain coach would understand this. Just my thoughts

Jimmyp we currently have Basinas and Stelios both from euro 2004 team and it ain't doing jack s%$#! for us. We also had Karagounis when Markarian was coach and where did that get us? When the players stop playing for the coach which is what it looks like happened here ain't nothing the technical director or assistant coach gonna do to change it. I say we go with Jimenez first choice and the Australian second choice.

I disagree for me this took balls by Socrates and Monolas to finally stand up and say something, they don’t have to play for the team they could be enjoying there holidays but they choose to be with the team and if they didn’t care they would keep there mouth shut but instead the want to succeed and it truly hurts them so they take charge and walk into the EPO office and demand change for the better of the team.. Yes Maybe there should be certain things not said in public but Socrates and Monolas said “Many many players came up to them and expressed there concern” so for me I give them credit for giving a s%$#! and demanding change for the better of the team.. This team has only won 14 out of 46 games in the last 5 years since the 2014 World Cup so I’m glad Socrates and Monolas have decided to step up and say something as these number are truly disgusting...

PAOK should just pay AEX's fine as well. After all the men should always pay the bill when they take their gomenes out.