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We get to fail to qualify twice in quick succession!

Ι agre that Skibbe takes a blame in this. But he should also take credit for taking a team that did one win in 10 games vs much easier opponents to making one that only lost 1 official. I also agree that we have much better midfielders but something tells me we have players who are not selected by Skibbe. As I said. Future looks promising. All top teams (have to include Panionios since its their 3rd year doing splendid) Pao , Aek , Panionios , Paok , Oly have a few players that are really worthy attention.

I watched the 1st leg again the commentators were shocked at how unorganized and stretched we were at the back. They questioned our formation and kept saying that Maniatis looked totally lost he did not know whether to cover Perisic more in the middle or track Strinic down the wings. Complete disorganization in a playoff match to go to the World Cup its unacceptable, I know Manolas would have settled things down but what was Skibbe doing? The Tzavellas pass back was absurd,why not boot it up the pitch and Karnezis trying to control it like he's a centre mid? Our world cup hopes went down the drain in those first 30 minutes just appauling....

@Rockafeller Skank The players I'm referring to that are s%$#! are Tziolis, Maniatis, and I was saying it's not there fault because they are just not good enough. I was not referring to The rest of the players. I think you missed my point.. I'm saying I think we could have been even better then we showed this campaign if we had a coach that would use these players. Even Karnezis is not in form by the way, I like Staf but he's not inform either so you can't excpected him to do to much.. We were not going to go very far with Skibbes selection and anyone that can't see this needs to check there eyes or are clueless about the game of Soccer. We had much better and younger options then Tziolis, Manuatis, bak, even Tzavellas he's not that good dude and it should have been Holebas spot but again all of this falls on the coaches head. Yes I agree with you even we played Croatia that many times the results would be different. He chose a line formation that he's never used ffs in the most important game... Even he commentators were surprised..

Karagounis and Katsouranis did often look average and have been outplayed. We have always had problems in the midfield, but we had decent wingplay from the fullbacks and wingers, which covered up our deficiencies. Karagounis was NT material, he played some great games, but memory is selective and we tend to only remember the good times. Bottom line, we need to see much more from our midfield. We have no presence, no confidence and no ability to possess the ball fluently. Did you see with what ease Croatia's midfield was controlling the game, winning balls, keeping possession? Fortounis is on the pitch and it seems like most of the time he's praying not to get a pass.

KOUTRIS