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Zivkovic got himself sent off after coming on as a HT sub. He will miss the game against the Ethniki in Volos as a result.

Horrendous performance, we've taken 2 step backwards today. Losing is part of football but it's about how you lose and today was disgraceful from coaches and players alike. Whether we qualify in the top 2 isn't important IMO. We have already secured the most important thing that this Nations League campaign had to offer, that is finishing top 3 and securing our place in pot 1 for the Euro 28 qualifiers. Anything else was/is going to be a bonus. Important to keep that perspective. There is a bigger issue at play, this is the 4th time that the Ethniki under Jovanovic has capitulated and produced an awful result. Twice against Denmark in WC qualifying, and away to Scotland in the same qualifiers. There is enough evidence there to tell us, he can't get this team right to take the next step. All 4 of these games have been high pressure with plenty riding on them. We have failed all 4 tests. The match in Scotland for the NL playoffs in March 25 was the only cutthroat match where Ivan's Ethniki performed and got a result. Only a few months later at the same stadium the team would collapse when leading 0-1 and we kissed our WC hopes goodbye. Now ultimately this Ethniki might not be good enough in midfield and defence to get results against more competitive nations. That remains to be seen. Clearly tactics and structure have a part to play in that. After all the Dutch just about scored the same goal 5 times, walking the ball into the net after finding unmarked players deep in and around our 6 yard box. There comes a tipping point and the coach is the one who needs to fall on his sword. We have reached this point IMO. You can't be confident with Jovanovic heading into a big qualifying match, or even a potential NL quarter final which we may still qualify for. His results in do or die matches just don't stack up.

Can only hope this beat down didn't hurt their confidence too much for Serbia. As disappointing a start as you can have considering we many players available for this window. Humbling really.

I mean, you do raise a good question. Do we want him to be there in the spring when Euro qualifying begins?

Netherlands 7-0 Greece FT

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It’s our second worse loss ever. The team has given up on him. The players see him picking his favorites like Ionnidis they are clearly discouraged. Idc if he “presses harder” there is 0 AND I MEAN 0 logic or sense behind starting him over the LEADING GOAL SCORER OF THE CHAMPIONS LEAGUE. We as a country were so desperate for success we missed the fact of the matter, which is this. We only beat Serbia from that same Douvikas giving a stellar finish in added time. Beat a heavily rotated, young, new coach Germany and fell apart against a Dutch team who was missing almost HALF their starters bcuz he wanted to sit back in the second despite any fan could see we needed possession to keep them at bay. Kostoulas not even on the squad when he can play as a 10 or on the wing if need be. Come on guys we got to this point because of the players we have, not from coach. You can thank his tactics for getting out of Pot B sure, but that is where it should have ended for him. It’s not “one loss”. He melts at every major game. Scotland, Georgia, Dutch last qualifying campaign. Come on

Final Dutch substitution: Lang IN Summerville OUT All changes have been made

Netherlands: Maatsen IN Timber OUT

Final Greek substitution: Koutsoupias IN Triantis OUT

Greece: Vagiannidis IN Tzolis OUT

As bad as this is.....and it's BAD, this doesn't undo the whole campaign

He needs to be fired today…

Lose to Serbia and he will be fired for sure

Greece: Masouras IN Karetsas OUT

Our biggest defeat in history is 11:1. There is enough time to set history today.

Greece: Douvikas IN Ioannidis OUT

Greece substitution: Bakasetas IN Pavlidis OUT

Complete joke Karetsas is literally asking to get taken out

Netherlands: Zechiel IN Reijnders OUT

Netherlands: Van Bommel IN Gakpo OUT

Great Bakasetas and Masouras come in

He needs to take Tziolis and Karetsas off before they get hurt

Love how Ivan has not changed any players

Touchdown: Netherlands, Malen 7-0