CH-Thrylos Posted May 16, 2005 Share Posted May 16, 2005 since the happenings in the stadium were more or less the same thing like when panionios and osfp had their match, i wonder what you think would be the correct punishment for the team. since osfp got the points back and the match was played again i would say aris should be given another chance too. the same punishments should be given for the same happenings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panathinaikos_Trifilli Posted May 16, 2005 Share Posted May 16, 2005 I dunno if that will happen... i mean with olym the match never started. Whereas Aris were 2-1 down... if every team whos down starts throwing tantrums and fans go crazy, and get a re-match, dosen't seem fair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montreal_Thrillos Posted May 16, 2005 Share Posted May 16, 2005 I dunno if that will happen... i mean with olym the match never started. Whereas Aris were 2-1 down... if every team whos down starts throwing tantrums and fans go crazy, and get a re-match, dosen't seem fair. the fans invaded thepitch twice and wer wanred but invaded anywaysI think 5 games no fans.. a heavy fine for no security and the 0. but not 3 points if they start reducing points this will make the fans more mad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irlandos Posted May 16, 2005 Share Posted May 16, 2005 Go to B' Ethniki, do not pass go, do not collect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziaka Posted May 17, 2005 Share Posted May 17, 2005 The punishment should be whatever the law says, which I believe in this case is forfeit of the game, -3 points in the standings, and a 5 game ban. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chameleon65 Posted May 19, 2005 Share Posted May 19, 2005 ..plus those morons who went ballistic and reacted like tasmanian devils should be handed 6 months of community service to help the elderly and clean the stadium grounds and a 1 year ban from matches. I read that those caught got suspended sentences..oh so cool :tup: :tdown: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montreal_Thrillos Posted May 19, 2005 Share Posted May 19, 2005 ouch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziaka Posted May 19, 2005 Share Posted May 19, 2005 In other words, what the laws of EPAE call for in these instances. The question is what will happen during the appeal tommorrow. Remember that in the Panionios - Olympiakos case, the fines were reduced during appeals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitsos Posted May 19, 2005 Share Posted May 19, 2005 The thing that troubles me the most is why these guys entered and attacked HRA players after the goal Aris scored. It makes no sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziaka Posted May 19, 2005 Share Posted May 19, 2005 Mitso, I know it does not make sense, but the game was interrupted 3 times. And all that in the first 45 minutes. Who knows what would have happened if the ref decided to continue the game. Tell me as an Aris fan, what should the punishment have been? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montreal_Thrillos Posted May 19, 2005 Share Posted May 19, 2005 will aris get to play the 3rd place B team in a playoff if they finish 14th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziaka Posted May 19, 2005 Share Posted May 19, 2005 No, unless this overturned on appeal, they are in B' Ethniki. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitsos Posted May 19, 2005 Share Posted May 19, 2005 As an Ari fan I think they should have awarded us the Championship :LOL: Whatever the law says is what they should do. However, I also took the same stance during the Panionios-OSFP fiasco, teams and fans must be separated. The way things stand now, fans have way to much power and that is not right. If the organized fans don't like what the people in charge are doing, they can always pull this crap. From a selfish standpoint it really kills my interest in Greek soccer next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montreal_Thrillos Posted May 19, 2005 Share Posted May 19, 2005 what botehrs me is that if the fans dont like the fact that aris was about to go to the 2nd division... with a loss why bother going to the game? y dont they just stay home? and anotehr more important question when these morons got home at night did they ask themselves if the problems they caused? are they proud of themselves? did they accomplish something great? Losers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montreal_Thrillos Posted May 19, 2005 Share Posted May 19, 2005 go up to these guys on the field and ask them by invading the field what they are trying to do? they probably don't i hope these guys understand their actions are a huge reason why they fell to the 2nd division Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dimitrakis Posted May 19, 2005 Share Posted May 19, 2005 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Posted May 19, 2005 Share Posted May 19, 2005 Its ok for gauvroi to get away with panonios incident, but when it comes to Aris situation, lets make them pay for it................ Why is it that olympiakos gets away with it and Aris copes it sweet now....... If Olympiakos punishment by epo was upheld, then you would not see the scenario of Aris. Because that would have served as a warning to other teams in the future. Unfortunately other supporters see, that if olympiakos can get away with the panonios incident, then why can't we....... Different laws apply to teams like olympiakos and teams like Aris. It just shows how corrupt the greek league is................ And you think the cup final against Olympiakos and Aris will be free from violence. To nero tha xehili apo to potiri, remember me on this...................... Etsi pernoune h gauvroi ta protathlima................................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montreal_Thrillos Posted May 20, 2005 Share Posted May 20, 2005 Its ok for gauvroi to get away with panonios incident, but when it comes to Aris situation, lets make them pay for it................ Why is it that olympiakos gets away with it and Aris copes it sweet now....... If Olympiakos punishment by epo was upheld, then you would not see the scenario of Aris. Because that would have served as a warning to other teams in the future. Unfortunately other supporters see, that if olympiakos can get away with the panonios incident, then why can't we....... Different laws apply to teams like olympiakos and teams like Aris. It just shows how corrupt the greek league is................ And you think the cup final against Olympiakos and Aris will be free from violence. To nero tha xehili apo to potiri, remember me on this...................... Etsi pernoune h gauvroi ta protathlima................................... BAH WE GOT AWAY WITH IT HEY?-300 000 euro fine (200 ooo more then aris) -4 home games no fans how exacly did we get away with it? the only difference here is that our fans didnt attack the players they did had OSFP fans done this...we would have deserved 3 points off and u vazeli stop complaining about our punishment if it was u guys.,... the entire world would hear your bitvhing and crying !! (not that we dont already) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYC_Olympiakos Posted May 22, 2005 Share Posted May 22, 2005 Knowing the history of appeals Aris will be able to play in the playoff to stave off relegation and probably get back 3 points which is still meaningless but again the courts may want to set an example as well but u can't take the playoffs from Aris they technically can fight to stay on the first division and that should remain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northerner Posted May 22, 2005 Share Posted May 22, 2005 What's going on? Will Irakli get their three points? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dimitrakis Posted May 24, 2005 Share Posted May 24, 2005 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziaka Posted May 24, 2005 Share Posted May 24, 2005 It is sad to see Aris fall down to B' Division. Hopefully the team can get back on their feet and can come back to the Alpha Ethniki stronger than before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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