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Catania just was send back to 3rd division with -12 in points because of bribes. Time to leave....

Didnt expect that! He was a regular ekei. But indeed he has fallen, i didnt like him on the world cup, expected him to make the difference but he was weak.

I don't understand that AEK is still looking for a winger? You signed many players that are wingers or dekari. Now you want more? Hmm, Schelotto is a very good players but it seems the deal is off?

Im very interested in this game I think i'm one of the few who thinks Atromitos actually has a chance of beating them.

I always liked Itandje.

Good Luck to Michel this is a very very big club he deserves it all the best.

I saw the game he was pretty off it's true.

1 club in CL and 4 in EL would be perfect for the 'weak' Greek league. Come on !!!

Wake up, Because we won't sell it. Wake up, Because it was to get the money from the Europeans. Wake up, because nothing can be sold, only leased so we will get it back in the end. Wake up, because it will make us a lot of tax money if the foreigners get the assets running. Wake up, because else Greek billionaires would have gotten them for 10% of the real value because they paid of Nea Demokratia government officials. We will never obey the Germans, stop believing everything you read in Western propaganda newspapers.

Stafylidis is linked to Augsburg who sold their leftback to Chelsea for big money. It would be a good team for him they also play in Europe if i am not mistaking.

If we lose the direct CL spot, we will play last round of qualifying against another champion of countries like Kazachtstan and Cyprus. There is a big chance to beat these teams. It's not like you will get opponents like Lazio, Arsenal or CSKA. We'll be fine.

You said yourself it's only for 50 years, not forever. Its not like they will raise the German flag or something. We've leased islands to Russian billionaires for 100 years and nobody cared for that either. 5 years ago they requested the same 50 bil in assets to be sold. Under Samaras only they were able to sell 4 bil of that requested 50. It's the same thing again. The airport deal was also made under Samaras ruling and stalled by Syriza. Do you actually think they will sell 50 bil while not even the bitch of Germany(sAMARAS) could sell over 4 bil in 5 years? Wake up.

Smart no? They lease it, will try to make it run better, create more jobs, and in 50 years they are ours again, or they pay more money to run it. Don't see anything wrong with it. We didnt sell it like you say, but lease it. Like you also say.

So to explain some people who say they wont return (let's hope so) Fact: something that really happened. Not a fact: something that could have been but never happened. Please this is a serious part of the forum, only facts and no hypothetical stories. It's not what you think you know but what you can PROVE! Thanks in advance.

Funny, I see a lot of Green from a fallen gigant that used to be a topclub. They want to get us down. But they don't have any facts. We, like in court, can counter simply with facts to the lies and propaganda. Lie: Olympiakos supporters dont come to foootballgames anymore. Fact: Olympiakos is close to the record of 11 years ago with 17000 season tickets sold already. Lie: Marinakis is a criminal and IS, SOMEDAY, going to jail. Fact: Marinakis is outside jail free and signing players for the team. Lie: Without CL Olympiakos will not get good players. Fact: Olympiakos without CL still spending a lot of money and got one of the most expensive League players ever that year Riera. In court you would already have been removed. A discussion with Facts against things that never happened and you only want to happen is not a discussion :)

I think nobody really knows how much players earn. I've told you guys before i read that Klaus was the highest paid player with 675k and that was after Noboa came. I couldnt really believe it at the time because Noboa came from Russia where they overpay players just like in Turkey. Anyway, I think PAOK has a chance to get Stoch with less money then turks paid him for sure.

Ive looked but can't find anything about the rest of the clubs. Only AEK and PAOK.

Seasontickets other topclubs sold untill now: PAOK: 6200 AEK: 7000

PAOK needs about 2 Stoch's. You had them but they left. Okey I wont start again but still. Stoch and another player with these new and unknown signing would be a good mix. Stoch will never get that salary somewhere else except if he goes to Dubai or something. If he wants to stay in Europe he will have to settle with less, and PAOK can pay him that.

Thanks I forgot to mention we already sold 17000 seasontickets!! Coming close to the record of 18250 from 11 years ago. 11 years ago there was no Marinakis. Who is supposed to be hated by our own fans who therefore only go to basketball games. Oke sure there goes another propaganda lie from 'some' rival fans. I know that only a small percentage hate us so much and spread these lies without evidence while we thankgod can prove they are wrong with these simpel facts. http://www.redplanet.gr/podosfairo/espase-to-fragma-twn-17000-diarkeias.3616934.html

2 of our biggest rivals (PAOK, Atromitos) are playing Europa League games this week. Even tough they are our rivals I wish them the best in Europe. It would benefit Greece. Would be sad to only see Asteras in the Europa League. Yesterday another rival showed they have a pretty good team. AEK draw 0-0 against Inter in Italy. Thats a pretty good result.

Hummels and Subotic are better offensively while Sokratis played multiple season as an attacking wingback and dd pretty good at that position? Now i've heard it all. It's like saying Messi is a better player because he is a better defender then Ronaldo. Really now i've heard it all. Who cares what a CB does offensively? It comes down how quick they pass the ball to the midfielders. Nothing more. It's not science.

Axxxxxxxxxxxxxx, the same old questions i've answered them 100 times on the old forum already. Wanna make Marinakis look like he's putting every single euro in his pocket... You think Cambiasso is cheap? They pay him around 2 mil salary. You think Finnbogason is cheap? Cost around 2 mil just to loan him for 1 year. Pardo is cheap? Around 2 mil just to loan him for one season. Milivojevic was bought for around 2.5 mil... You think the rest makes 500 euro a month like the normal Greeks? Gotta pay that salary from something and no not from the Super League money. What names promised re? He didnt promise any name thank god not we arent Turkish clubs who buy 10 old bullshit 'names' (Cambiasso is enough) and dont even make CL. But he did promise to spend more then 10 mil of his own money on transfers.. because 25 mil isnt enough to beat teams like Juve and Atletico Madrid......unlike some other presidents he does that yes. And there are still names coming august isnt over, he will proberly even spend more of his own money on transfers...... We dont have players like Soileidis ... or Kaltsas... Now you know where the money goes.... Stop trying to pick a fight, do that in your own part of the forum.

that;s a typical joke the non-Greeks make to bash us and you think it's a great point? <_<

So wo can we consider our biggest rivals? 1. AEK. Back after a couple of years. Has a very balanced team and i'm impressed with their transfers. They signed skilled players like Vargas and Buonanotte. Djebbour can be trouble. 2. PAOK. Not impressed with their transfers. But very strong trainer. Still some players to sign. Never underestimate them. 3. Atromitos. They have a pretty strong roster. Showed skills in Europe so far. Curious to see what they can do against Fener. 4. Asteras. Always good players last couple of years. Qualified for group stage Europa League. Waiting to see if they can play like last season.