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1.7 mil is more then any European club would offer him. Also i might add clubs like Bursaspor always have problems with payments so who would chose turkey over New York, I think nobody.

Can you imagine we only played with 3rd choice center backs and some other 2nd choice players against them. Imagine what our team will look like when we play with our strongest 11. Fortounis can become the best player in our team if he continues like this. Silva impresses me the way he lets our team play.

It's good to play and build with talented Greek youngsters but you need better players around them then Tzavellas, Salpi and the rest. It's a big excuse that you cant get other players then from league's smaller then Greece. When you signed people like Maduro, Noboa, Stoch, Martens, they were pretty good, wanted by many other clubs from better leagues and not old AND most of them didnt get huge over the top salaries at PAOK. Those were good players most of them F***ed up by your trainer Aggelos. You should never have fire Stevens. He needed more time. Anyway, You best paid player is Klaus with 675k so those other players had/have lower salaries. Compared to PAO who pays Essien 1.5 mil and Sergio Psycho Sanchez 850K I dont want to hear more excuses cause you did a better job luring foreign players to Greece.

They spend 600k on a position that was the least worse of all. Itandje and Glykos were decent players. You need 6 other players on other positions, you didnt need a swdish keeper.

It's true we as Greeks shouldnt give a F*** about whats happening over there. They were all best friends a long time ago and a mutual enemy to Greece. The Kurds did horrible things to us togehter with the Turks. Anyway like I said we cheer for the Kurds because they are the enemy of our biggest enemy. It's sad to see they got betrayed by the USA for an airfield. But that's what we know, they betray anybody when it's in their own interest. They are Turkey's best friend for over more then 20 years. It is true that if you look at the map, Turkey should be worried about the Kurds. If someday the war is over in Syria and Irak and the Kurds still have those big pieces of land in Syria that are connected to the land they have in Irak, you can figure out yourself what they can make of that if they put it togheter someday. Russia won't lift a finger for any (muslim) country. They are not like the US. But Putin is more loyal. Untill now he doesnt give a F*** omws about these wars and neither should we. Iran wont go to war by the way. They had a worse ecnomy then Greece. Now that the sanctions are lifted they can get better, but they have no money for a war, certainly not with rich countries like Saudi Arabia,who have the USA as their biggest friend.

Make your favorite starting 11 here: Roberto Omar, Zambrano, Siovas, Masuaku, Milovojevic, Chori, Kasami Pardo, FinnB, Jonas Gutierrez If you want you can also make a B and C squad because we have more players then Chelsea! Good Luck.

happy birthday to the best president in Greek super League, a saint compared to the other criminals ruling self claimed topteams. Vangelis XRONIA POLLA!!

So you didnt go eh? Have you actually ever been to Greece? I guess I also know the answer to that.

Did you even go to the army? please tell the truth? im sure you didnt. Dont lie about it.

If information about the Greek army that's based on my own experience and that of my friends and family who LIVE in Greece is considered kafenio talk, then what do you consider an American who doesnt live in Greece who doesnt even come for holidays who has no sense of reality but gets his opinion from website's that write what ever they want?? hahahaha youre a disgrace and stop calling yourself greek? And please answer my question above directly and dont duck it. we know youre good at it.

I would like to say the same to you: The fact you defending bigger criminals then Marinakis while accusing him who has done nothing compared to those other criminals reflects poorly on you friend... There is enough prove against Meli and Alafouzos :) Nea Demokratia kept them out of jail for 30 years. Now it's time to go in. Greece will be a lot safer.

Avraam

Youre such an annoying american red neck. I never said we need Russia. Your dick gets so hard when you read the word Russia and you head starts spinning around with all these communist/kapitalist thougts. Do you still live in 1970? That site is such bullshit. If you stil have Greek family or relatives in Greece that didnt cut you off go and ask them how the army is at the moment? Planes dont get in the air, they are outdated big time. No money for repairs or updates. No money for petrol. Tanks are not up to date. We can have a 1000 tanks but they are not ready for use. Wages went in half. Another budgetcut of 400 mil because of Europe in the next years. The problem with you is, ive said it many times. You are an American. You don't know whats going on in Greece. You base everything on website's that lie and write what they want.

PAOK spends a lot of money on wrong players since Savvides came. Expensive loans etc... Arnesen is a disaster for evry team. He destroys every team he worked for last couple of years. HSV one of the richest clubs in Europe look what became of them with his transferpolicy. Can't believe you signed him.

If you know the history of Melisanidis, in his first period as a president and as a businessman then you know he is a way bigger gangster then Marinakis. The problem with AEK and PAO fans is this: Their presidents play the same game with the same dirty rules and moves as ours. But their presidents are losing the game :) Thats why Marinakis has to go but their dirty presidents can stay.

I love how you keep saying the opposite of the truth. The Greek military is s%$#!. No money for maintance of planes and tanks. No money for Gas. No money for new weapons. I wish we was more like Russia. They re-organized their budget but became stronger. Turkey has not that many enemies. Their biggest friend is YOU (America). America does everything for them for years now just to get their airspace and airfields. They will always pick Turkey's side over Greece and over Kurds and many other countries.

The Kurds conqured so much land in north Syria that turkey is afraid. It could set off many things in Turkey with 20 mil kurds living there. Now they attack the PKK because they cant attack the US backed YPG in Syria. I still dont understand how you can take so much s%$#! from Turkish government if you are with 20 milion in that country. Only a few thousand fight for the PKK. They should be much stronger. Anyway we symphatize with the kurds because they are the enemy of our enemy, but let's not forget one time they were the best friends of the turks and were helping them against us Greeks.

ANTE GEIA mi milas esy

A ok so it's not ok to pay refs but it's ok to put them in hospital and threat them with guns like Tigris does. Ok now I understand.

Im happy you are still very short sighted and only looking about left and right. Typical American mind. The best thing is not the west, it's doing business with everybody. America, Germany, Russia, China and so on. We shouldnt be hold back by stupid European Rules that only benefit the rich countries. Ive always said this and I never looked to left or right, just like Tsipras. He showed that when he started working with Kammenos the day after the elections. But you are blind sided by the media.

He got big companies like OPAP very very cheap because of dirty deals with Nea Demokratia, so don't tell me it's a bad thing that Syriza blocked it. If he payed for it himself instead of trying to make another dirty deal for the stadium with government money it would have been build already. Say what you want about Marinakis but he pays for Olympiakos players and debts and stadium with his own cash.

Tsipras was never a communist, he was portrayed like that by propaganda channels and newspapers in Greece. Thats why I support him. I also was never a communist, you dont have to be anti-europe to be a communist... see Kammenos... I also was never a Russia lover, it was just a smart hand in the game to play. It was so smart that America was 24\7 on the phone with Germany to order them to make a deal. You just cant see the big picture, you cant see how the game is played my American friend. I always saw this and wasnt blinded by propaganda made on tsipras.. left.. communist blablabla. Wth new elections Tsipras get 50% of the votes after the summer. And not because he's a communist, but because he helps Greece and not his own pockets like you 'right' German lovers like ND and PASOK. And the game isnt over.... what did Europe think they can F*** Greece? We were making wars in Asia 3000 years ago when these idiots didnt even excist.. haha they wanna play us? hahahahaha.

Tsipras made a deal to F*** them in the end. We will never pay that amount of money we ow them back. Even if we wanted to, we couldnt. Samaras, the bitch of Merkel and Schauble, wasnt able to sell more then 4 dis of the 50 dis that they want us to sell. Now they made that deal again, are they stupid or what? Yes Germans are stupid. The banks in Greece are open but not for export business. This is a big problem. Once everything is like normal again Tsipras is the winner. We get a lot of money. We wont pay s%$#! back. Economy has to start again like before. When we have the money we start flirting with Russia again. The Americans pressured Germany to make a deal. So those trips to Russia from Tsipras that were bashed by members here were very smart and a part of the game. Tsipras also proved he isnt that left as people say he was. I hope this was a lesson for the anti-communist members here. Greece is not Amerika. Mpravo Alexi!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! proxora!!!! WAIT A MINUTE? JVC IS CURSING AT HIS LOVERS ND AND PASOK??????????????????? WHAT IS THIS? THE BIGGEST TSIPRAS HATER?????????? WHAT HAPPENED?

But after they gave an airport to the Americans they are best friends again since a week or so. America is betraying their allies (Kurds) faster then we change our underwear.

The Kurds have a big big territory in Syria at the moment. Erdogan doesnt want that. It can set off all kind of things that could be dangerous since there are 20-25 mil kurds living in Turkey. Now they are not going after them yet, but nobody prevents them from bombing PKK because they are still seen as a terrorist organisation. I can't understand why Europe, and certainly USA let's him do this. They know he is not bombing ISIS and only the kurds, who are America's boots in the ground. It's a big dirty political game. Also this is the way he can win the elections without that Kurdish party getting 13% of the votes like last time. Erdogan is a very dirty boy. He tries to hide the failing economy of the last 2 years by attacking arch enemies. It's also smart in a way. I can't see why all the turks are so happy with him. He is a dictator cutting off every internet site when ever he wants.