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Those are hard calculations pash, my brain exploded hahaha

Olimpik Donetsk VS PAOK

Έτοιμος να θυμηθείς την Τσέχικη γλώσσα;

Looks like a poor choice for our first transfer and a poor choice for our coach. I have a feeling that this year is going to be quite successful!

Ποιος Πετρωτός ρε Χρήστο; Είμαστε σοβαροί; Ζούνε από τον ΠΑΟΚ αυτοί οι άνθρωποι που αν δεν υπήρχε ο ΠΑΟΚ θα ζητιανεύανε στα φανάρια; Δε τον ξέρω τον άνθρωπο, αλλά πιο πολλές πιθανότητες έχω εγώ να γίνω αστροναύτης από το να γίνουν αυτοί οι τυχάρπαστοι ρεπόρτερ.

Σαββίδη ρίξε λεφτά να φέρεις σοβαρό προπονητή, αλλιώς καταστρέφεται η χρονιά πριν ακόμα ξεκινήσει! Τέτοια περίοδο δεν βρίσκεις προπονητή εκτός αν τα σκάσεις πολύύύ χοντρά!

With the economy in Greece, I would be surprised if the same guy still owns this place for 12 consecutive years.

And why you think UEFA/FIFA are virginmarys? Twenty years of Olympiacos paragka they had nothing to do with it? Do you seriously think they had no idea what was happening in Greece? They are F***ed up and corrupted themselves if you want my opinion. Of course Greece is way worse, but I am sure that UEFA/FIFA support their own interests and they have no interest on an honest improvement of Greek football.

Well said Christo. On the other hand, does Ivic want to stay? That is also an important question.

The sad part Christo is that every year we are bringing a No.1 GK and then Glykos proves to be better. I don't know who is bringing all those GKs, but this time someone else should make the choice. Hopefully the new coach will bring someone who trusts.

I am more afraid of a joke like Igor Tudor than Huub Stevens.

Jacobo, Itandje, Gspurning, Olsen, Vellidis, Brkic... Still Glykos was better than all of them! I don't think Brkic will stay with us next year pash. And there is no way Siampanis will be considered for anything more than filling the roster and gaining experience. If we consider Brkic is leaving and Glykos will be still off until October-November, we have to seek two GKs. Unfortunately... But I am afraid they will be of the same level like the rest that I wrote above. And we will praying for Glykos to get ready sooner, so we can have some safety under the post.

We have to give credit to Glykos. He has been through a lost, but he has made some amazing games. All the goalkeepers make mistakes and I think he deserves to be with PAOK for many years still. We have brought so many GK to take his place and no one could last. Let's face it, we never had a stable GK for more than a few games. And for Glykos was by far the best. Unlike Klaus that never improved, I think he improved a lot! He had bad games, oh yes, he received huge criticism from fans, hell yes, people even wishing for him to get injured, hell yes, the most stressful position in PAOK's roster for ever. But he succeeded on leaving the past behind, look ahead, improve himself and even become a real captain. By seeing Brkic playing, I certainly missed Glykos!

Ivic's only success was the cup. The SL ended to be a big disappointment. Good run the whole season, but in the play offs he lost twice both from Panathinaikos and AEK. Plus those pretty awful losses at OAKA (3-0) and Leoforo (1-0) earlier this year. His biggest achievement for me was the amazing job that they did with the muscle injuries the whole year. A huge bravo for that. On the other hand, he could do a little better with the squad. I mean with players as Kace, Charisi, even Facundo Pereyra. I liked the fact that he choose to eliminate Tzavella, Tzioli etc. But, at the play-offs he expected the players that he never believed to get the job done. Including Brkic who was quite awful every time he played. Certainly the most successful coach in the 5-year Savvidi era where we have seen all the craziest and shittiest choices by a guy who has proven he has no idea about football and who is still struggling to take the correct decisions even after so many years. I mean, we demand from Ivic and from the next Ivic to take the best decisions and show his work in just a few months, but we have an owner who has proven that his football knowledge is dangerous for the club. And his improvement is slight over the years. Let's see what choices he will make for his sixth year. Now, that he is supposed to be in an open war with everyone, he has to build the strongest team ever. And that means to bring a huge coach (for this I would only hope that Michel will pick the one) and buy at least 7-8 top quality players, especially if we consider that at least a couple or more will not be with us next year.

And not to forget that Europe and even Europe League is the reason that many of our top players came to PAOK. We succeed on getting PAOK's name out there in the world. Players as Noboa and Natcho played against us with Rubin Kazan when we left out Tottenham. Miroslav Stoch was playing for Fenerbahce when we eliminated them, too. No matter they didn't offer a lot to the club, they are quality players who might need an extra motive besides money. And good European runs, with full and noisy stadium are the best advocate for us after the money that Savvidis has to give to persuade them to come to play for us.

It depends on what is interesting for you. In the round of 16 in EL this year were teams like Lyon, Roma, Ajax, Schalke, Anderlecht, Besiktas, and Man Utd. I think for the Greek standards it is more interesting than we can handle.

jvc football in Greece is helping the politicians to complete their job without any on street violence. They put all the violence in the stadiums and they can continue their job. The monthly basic salary is now $400 from what my friends tell me. We are not Bulgaria yet. The politicians have a few more years to complete their work. The $400 has to become $200 and at the same time sell anything that is still in Greek hands. So, having the fans stabbing each other, have the presidents of the clubs make announcements to each other, have Tsipra working on Panathinaikos stadium and also (not) helping AEK, so a big chunk of the society are completely occupied there and they don't rebel against any government that is thrown to their face.

Δεν ξέρω αν είναι μόνο το "χέσιμο". Αυτό είναι σίγουρα. Αλλά ίσως έχει να κάνει και με τα χάπια που τους δίνουν.

Ποιος νόμος και κουραφέξαλα; Ποιος έφερε το Noor; Ποιος ευθύνεται για τα τόσα οικονομικά σκάνδαλα δεκαετίες τώρα;

Ο Κάνιας και ο Τσίμιροτ στο τελευταίο παιχνίδι με την ΑΕΚ ήταν σα να μην υπάρχουν. Εκτός αν τους χαπακώσουνε για να μπορέσουν να τρέξουν δεν βλέπω το λόγο γιατί να ξεκινήσουν ξανά και οι δύο.

Δεν υπάρχει σεβασμός στη χώρα jvc. Όταν οι πρόεδροί είναι εγκληματίες που όλοι γνωρίζουμε ότι λόγω διαπλοκής δεν βρίσκονται στις φυλακές, τι περιμένεις;

Σεβασμός στην ιστορία του Παναθηναϊκού. Σεβασμός στον προπονητή του και στους παίκτες του. Η διοίκησή τους είναι για γέλια, αλλά τα παιχνίδια κερδίζονται με γκολ στο γήπεδο. Ίβιτς αφού κατάφερες να χάσεις δύο φορές από την ΑΕΚ στα πλέι οφ και πήρες το μεγάλο διπλό στη Λεωφόρο με 0-3 χωρίς να βάλεις γκολ, κάνε μία ακόμη νίκη να είμαστε καλά.

jvc show some respect for PAOK who progressed at least from the group stages of Europa League. You, especially as a PAO fan, should know that better. Your team this year made some horrible history for the legendary name of Panathinaikos in Europe. AEK also was eliminated before the group stages. Show some respect to the team that was the most successful and had the most games this year.

Ο Τσίμιροτ και ο Κάνιας έχασαν όλο το κέντρο. Πολύ καλός ο Χαρίσης. Ο Μπίσεσβαρ επίσης έδειξε ότι δεν μπορεί να βγάζει σερί παιχνίδια ξανά. Δυστυχώς ο mvp μας ήταν ο Τζάλμα Κάμπος ξανά και ο οποίος τραυματίστηκε. Ο Ενρίκε ακόμα δεν λέει να βάλει μυαλό και να παίξει σύμφωνα με τις δυνατότητές του. Ο Πέλκας μπήκε και παρότι έδειξε ζωηρός, μετά χάθηκε στην μετριότητα. Αρκετά κακή η διαιτησία. Έδειξε ιδιαίτερα στο τέλος ότι δεν θέλει να αφήσει τον ΠΑΟΚ να ισοφαρίσει. Γύρω στο 65' στο κέντρο ο Χαρίσης πάει να βγει σε αντεπίθεση, παίκτης της ΑΕΚ που είναι στο έδαφος του πιάνει τα πόδια με τα χέρια για να μην βγάλει αντεπίθεση ο ΠΑΟΚ. Δίνεται μόνο φάουλ και όχι κίτρινη. Διπλό τρανταχτό φάουλ στον Χαρίση λίγα μέτρα έξω από την περιοχή περίπου στο 70' και δεν δίνει τίποτα. Επίσης το τάκλιν του Μάνταλου στον Ενρίκε στο οποίο ουσιαστικά μόνο γλύφει την μπάλα επίσης μπορούσε να δοθεί, το οποίο θα σήμανε δεύτερη κίτρινη/κόκκινη και φυσικά δεν δόθηκε. Χτύπημα ενός παίκτη της ΑΕΚ (δεν θυμάμαι ποιου) στον Κρέσπο εντός περιοχής της ΑΕΚ και εκτός φάσης. Κόκκινη στον παίκτη της ΑΕΚ και πέναλτι υπέρ του ΠΑΟΚ. Δεν δόθηκε φυσικά τίποτα. Γέμισμα στην περιοχή της ΑΕΚ, ο Πρίγιοβιτς δεν κάνει τίποτα, ο παίκτης της ΑΕΚ πέφτει μόνος του και δίνεται επιθετικό φάουλ για να μην κάνει φάσει ο ΠΑΟΚ. Και στο τέλος φυσικά η χερούκλα του παίκτη της ΑΕΚ η οποίο είναι είτε πέναλτι είτε φάουλ ακριβώς έξω από την περιοχή (δεν το είδα καθαρά) και πάλι δεν δίνεται τίποτα. Και δεν μιλάω για κάτι ψιλά οφσάιντ που επίσης δόθηκαν λανθασμένα στον ΠΑΟΚ...

But when the politicians are still saying, "PASOK did worse, or ND did worse, or Tsipras did worse" and we brought the country economic wealth or whatever.... What are we expecting from the club owners who are mainly having their teams to support their main interests which often are illegal?