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Any word on possible lineups?

NOT for the ethniki.

Glad to see we're capable of breaking some records: http://www.paok24.com/podosfairo/53231/spaei-rekor-sto-prostimo 50k 10k - vs xanthi 15k - vs veria 15k - vs aek 10k - vs atromitos

Siga re...before Berbatov signed, our team's average age was 22 or 23. Tziolis is 30. Of the others you named, only Malezas is not in his 20s. If Arnesen has his way, this team will mostly stay together. Only time will tell. Besides, isn't it refreshing for you to not hear that we'll win the protathlima?

We basically figured we'd get no points out of Dortmund for either match. Getting the draw is huge, and I can't see either of the other teams doing the same. I still don't know how good the soviets really are, but Toumba is a great equalizer.

Agreed. We were also very unlucky not to get out with a win. Frustrating, but considering that the average age of these players is 12, and they've only just started coalescing into a team, this result bodes well for the future.

If Glykos plays like he did last time, then he sure will. I imagine he'll get another chance when the cup matches start.

Karnezis, Kapino, Vellidis, Moras, Vyntra, kitsiou, stafylidis, Sokratis, Manolas, Kpaps, Tziolis, Pelkas, torosidis, holevas, tachtsidis, Samaris, klaus, fortounis, mantalos, Kone, Mitroglou, karelis, aravidis all called up

Kitsiou, Pelkas, Tziolis, Klaus all called up to the national team. Stafylidis too

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3256947/PAOK-Salonika-1-1-Borussia-Dortmund-Visiting-supporters-clash-Greek-riot-police-Thomas-Tuchel-maintains-unbeaten-start.html

Yeah? Where?

I put myself under a major communications blackout so I could watch this match (as I advertised before). Thoughts: We could have lost heavily, but we also could have won by multiple goals. Many, many missed chances. The 80-84 minute phase was pretty sweet. I was dead certain, up until Mak's goal, that we'd lose by 5. The players all looked absolutely terrified. Except Berbatov, who must have thought he was out for a morning stroll. Glad to see Charisis come on. Pelkas should have come on much sooner, for Sabo. Sabo is a frustrating player - I think his off the ball movement is actually pretty decent, but he can't pass, dribble, or shoot well enough. Charisis will give him a run for his money, I think. Tziolis had an absolutely monster game. Best I've seen him play in ages. Tzavellas was pretty good too (but not as good as Costa!). I can't believe Olsen gave up that goal. Of all the ways to drop points...THIS?? Rodrigues, Konstantinidis, Kace, all had good games. Berbatov also looked dangerous, but needed more support. I was screaming at Jairo to pass the ball to Berbatov when he tried that...nutmeg? Whatever it was vs Weidenfeller. Mak - classic Mak performance. Had fewer chances than he usually has, but at least took one. Great on him.

Inching up bit by bit. 27.7 with today's draw for PAOK. Shame about Asteras.

I'm going to go incommunicado for this due to being swamped at work, so I'll join back in (much) later tonight, after I watch the match. But I'll leave you with our lineup:

Oh I'm sure you'll spend a lot of time "learning"

Haha okay that I could live with

I suppose the simplest explanation is good old fashioned bribery. Get my guy in there and I'll pay you 20k. Nice and simple.

Do we have any indication of what their lineup will be?

Ronaldinho isn't just 35. He's an OLD 35. The only things I've heard about him in the past few years are troubles with club management. Let's not waste our time.

Unreal...

Good question... As for who's not being played by BVB - a bizarre choice by Tuchel. They must be very confident. Which I guess they should be.

Sabo's not a DM, I'd buy Blackhaw's variation a bit more. On the plus side, Sabo's much more interested in attacking than Tziolis is.

Looks like this one is actually already updated: http://kassiesa.home.xs4all.nl/bert/uefa/data/method4/ccoef2016.html http://kassiesa.home.xs4all.nl/bert/uefa/data/method4/crank2016.html <-- what we're looking for - we're now up to 27.5. Inching closer to the Czech Republic

Well, at least we'll have some real speed going for us. Mak, Rodrigues, Kace, and Konstantinidis should keep it interesting. Vitor is injured?

Do we have any site with live updates to this? ;)