Dean97

We now have Tzandaris, Loria and Martinez. http://www.contra.gr/Soccer/Hellas/Superleague/olympiacos/anakoinwse-loria-o-olympiakos.3558127.html

this would be my team.... Karnezis Kapino Torosidis K.Papadopoulos Sokratis Holebas Bakakis Manolas Moras Stafylidis Tachtsidis Samaris Tziolis Fortounis Maniatis Ninis Karelis Aravidis Samaras Fetfatzidis Mitroglou Kaltsas other options: Mantalos Oikonomou Kone Lazaros Vellidis Glykos Klaus These players should be the core, ill do another team on the next generation see what you think.

Im also finding it hard there is not one player that is like Karagounis i saw a glimpse of Tachtsidis in the Poland match hustling and fighting for the ball but thats about it. Kyriakos is going to lead and lift the team if he is playing because of his passion and aggression. He is the only one who comes close to Karagounis and therefore he needs to play but not midfield. Its going to be hard to choose between Manolas and Kyriakos.

Im also finding it hard there is not one player that is like Karagounis i saw a glimpse of Tachtsidis in the Poland match hustling and fighting for the ball but thats about it. Kyriakos is going to lead and lift the team if he is playing because of his passion and aggression. He is the only one who comes close to Karsgounis

I dont think K.Papadopoulos will cut it in DM i know he had 1 good game against Hungary but that does not mean we play him there. We need players who can distribute the ball like the way Katsouranis, Tziolis, Fotakis, Karagounis, Basinas, Zagorakis and Tsiartas have. We also need a real number 10, Lazaros is not the person for this position im talking about players like Ninis, Mantalos and Fortounis. For 6 and 8 positions i think Samaris and Tachtsidis will be the next two players in a midfield that will be given the 'torch' by the players mentioned before the next 5-10 years. We are gifted in central defenders we have good depth although we do have a problem with our full backs there Torosidis is ageing and Stafylidis is not ready but will be soon with more expirience, but upfront we havent got that world class striker for eg. Cavani, Suarez, Benzema, Falcao. We have mediocre strikers like Mitroglou, Klaus, Aravidis, Vellios, Gekas. In the next games we need to play the striker that is in form scoring few goals players and first preference goes to those who are playing in top leagues. The wingers have to be for now Samaras and Karelis. The Goalkeeper has to be for now Karnezis if he is not living up to expectations we have Kapino and Vellidis as back ups. To sum everything up we need to find a balance of inform players and players suitable for our formation system. Even if its putting older players, in to balance the system out and slowly putting the next generation of players in for their place and so on. We need to win games like we did in qualifying with Rehaggel and Santos and keep the same system they used and try to expand on it slowly. We need more friendly matches and better training methods and stick to our defence first mentality and counter attacking football.

His home is Irakleio not Thessaloniki. Yes i do agree he should come home to Greece and play for team like Iraklis maybe Panionios, Panatolikos or Veria. He will get playing time for sure if he joins one of these clubs and get back into form. The Greek League is not bad and now with some more competition in the League now its gonna be worth watching and its not a bad idea for him to get some form back.

Apparently Makos wants to return to the national team and wants to play in Greece. He been playing for Anthorsis in Cyprus and wants to go play in Greece and Karagounis is making major changes in the National Team. http://www.contra.gr/Soccer/Hellas/National-Greece/o-karagkounhs-etoimazei-th-rhksh.3541052.html

Maniatis is right for Greece's midfield because he can run and run in other words he can be the engine for the team and can tackle well as seen in games from qualifying and world and euro cups. I just wish every player in the midfield had his work rate.

Mavrias i reckon will be the next Salpingidis they play similar and are passion and hardworking, also Karelis. I think we have no other good option up front i would try Mantzios, Aravidis, Dimitris Papadopoulos or even Samaras. We can t trust Mitroglou or Klaus to do the job. Gekas is out of the question. Who else does everyone think could do a consistent job from here on out for the National Team.

I think someone must of mentioned something about Mantzios who used to play for Levadiakos and now plays for Platanias. I thought I show everyone some highlights of his goals. I think he should be given another go on the team since we cannot score with the players we have now.

Akritis just out of curiosity about Kourbelis do you know what his main attributes are like his strengths.

Just read an article about Katsouranis about his future in the Ethniki here it is: http://www.contra.gr/Soccer/Hellas/National-Greece/katsoyranhs-tha-doume-an-tha-synexisw-sthn-ethnikh.3532436.html

I thought i show this to everyone:

i think Karelis will be a massive upgrade for us in the future he has the energy the skill the determination and most importantly the passion. Sokratis is a must stay in this team so is Kyriakos, Manolas pissed me off a bit, i dont know if i will keep him there all the time. Moras should play more i think. WIth Samaris and Kyriakos in the middle and Ninis i believe we have a well balance midfield with hardworking, aggressive and solid passing and creating. Lazaros and Kone can be on the bench.

As i said before we should start off playing fast in their half and create problems for their defence. They will play defensive what better way to start off the first 10-15 mins 3-0 up. then try play more at a normal speed. Fetfatzidis is a must start and Tachtsidis no one else can keep possesion better than him in the team maybe Samaris. Mitroglou should also start i have a good feeling he could score a few in this game.

Do you reckon Markarian will pick Ninis tommorrow. I would like to see him and Fetfatzidis play.

Can anyone tell me what is so good about Tasoulis ive never heard of him until the beginning of the qualifying campaign does anyone know if he is good or worthy enough to be part of the team

I reckon we should go with either Tzavellas or Stafylidis anyone else?

http://www.contra.gr/Soccer/Hellas/National-Greece/eishghsh-karagkounh-gia-kopsimo-toy-xolempas.3493704.html According to this Holebas is not playing in the match because Karagounis dosent want him.

i agree but i dont know more consistent than Kone i believe Lazaros is a unique player but the Ethniki has not had one player that has the killer instinct for goal than Mitroglou did a year and a half a year ago. we havent got that one player i believe Lazaros is still a good option though

Yeah thats correct and its preety smart from him to do that to see what he has got and what options he has Kolovos has been on fire this season but im not sure about Tasoulis Ranieri and Markarian must see something in him im not sure though

Have they announced the team yet ive read that article and it said players like Vellidis, Stafylidis, Tasoulis, Fountas and Kolovos, have started training so Markarian know what to do with them and get a rhythm going.

Apparently he might choose Vellidis

I feel exactly the same Markarian should know not to start Klaus and Katsouranis. Also starting Ninis is not a good idea even though he had a good match he should come on half way through the second half for an impact. Does anyone know if Karnezis will be playing this match is he injured or not? I don't know about anyone else but i dont know if i could trust anyone else if Karnezis is out in any match but i could be wrong maybe Kapino or Glykos could do the job maybe even Vellidis. Konstantopoulos wouldn't be too bad cause of his experience. Just got to see what happens.

How can Gianniotas be in our lineup where we got players like Kolovos and Vlachodimos coming back from loan where will he fit where will Kolovos fit and Vlachdomios fit in the squad id rather play Kolovos and i still find Vlachodimos a promising player.