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Όταν μπαίνεις στο ασπρόμαυρο φόρουμ, πρώτα θα δίνεις συγχαρητήρια για τον πανάξιο πρωταθλητή και μετά θα γράφεις ότι θέλεις να πεις. Σεβασμός στην καλύτερη ομάδα της Ελλάδας!

I follow you completely, Pash! I think Kitsiou is trying to hard to prove himself to the trainer in order to get back in the starting 11. And therefore he gets to much yellows where he shouldn’t get them.

AEX lost. Title race over for them.

Good assessment, Greece should be winning comfortably vs Estonia, Faroes, Luxembourg etc. We scrape out 1-0 wins when they should be 3 goal spreads. Going back to the 2014 World Cup qualifying we had the same issue not putting up big wins vs the lightweights and Bosnia did and they beat us out for top spot on goal differential. The larger problem now in the last 4 years is that we are losing or drawing games to these minnows at the very least Greece should be getting wins. This has to change. First thing Ange has to do is call up our best players and put them in there correct positions. Ange made 9 changes to the starting 11 vs Estonia to experiment and thinking the team was going to get the easy win. I am all for some changes but not that many and you cant do that in your 2nd match in charge when you are looking to get wins to build momentum and to move up the rankings.

Funny thing is we have never smashed minnow teams. We just scrape through. I’m talking about back then. Now we either just scrape through or lose. I don’t think there was a lack of passion or effort. They were all trying in the nations league. I hate to think that our players are garbage. I really do. But it could be a reality. I’m not just talking about Bakasetas. Other players like Fortounis aswell. Even Sokratis. Other teams look like they play more fluid. We look like we are lost and panic. Also afraid to make a mistake. Thats why we need players who have balls. The players have to these qualities in order to represent their country. 1. Talent. You have to be able to make a pass. Hold possession well. Control the ball. Have some skills. Mostly the basics. Some of our players struggle with this. 2. Passion/Drive/Love. Our players have to want to play for their country and be excited about that. Also have the drive to play your best game and also have ambitions. They have to really and deeply love their country and be passionate about it. Be like I’m doing this for my country and I will got to war with my fellow brothers. They have to love and be proud of their country. 3. Team spirit. Our players should have each other’s back. They should be working for each other and helping as much as possible. Like a war but in football. Give encouragement to each other which then gives your players the confidence. Start being good friends, throw out the club mentality because when you are playing for your country that’s when it should all count. 4. Confidence/Courage. These go hand in hand. Just like before when I was talking about having the balls to do things. They have to have the belief and courage in the game. Especially when your playing for your country. Take chances. Believe you are the best and show it. Make that long pass, don’t think twice. Shoot when you are supposed to and so on and so on. 5. Lastly work ethics/Taking action. We need our players moving. Can’t be static and wait for things to happen. Move, run, tackle, sweat, yell and show leadership. We are lacking real commanding leader. This is a problem. But if our players can lead by example as 1 and take responsibility then we should look dominant and dangerous. These are the qualities that our players need to have. If they don’t have most then they shouldn’t be called up. They are all really equally important. In my opinion we need work in all aspects. It looks like they are trying but it’s not enough. The confidence and courage is not there at all. Also some player are not that talented. Not all have the same drive and passion aswell. I don’t really care if someone is playing in Israel (Ninis) or if someone is playing in Portugal (Samaris). If your the right person for the job then you should be in. That’s why I put talent at no.1.

Παιδιά τι βλέπετε για το Ατρόμητος-Ολυμπιακός; Με 50-50 διαιτησία ο Ολυμπιακός δεν κερδίζει. Πιο πιθανό να χάσει. Το θέμα είναι ότι μάλλον κι εμείς δεν θέλουμε να κερδίσει ο Ατρόμητος γιατί είναι σε απόσταση αναπνοής και ίσως η μόνη ομάδα που μπορεί να μας κοντράρει. Τι προτιμάτε; Άσσο ή ισοπαλία;

I honestly thought masouras looked pretty solid in the Estonia match. What do you guys think?

Here's the results of the group stage draw: Group A: Atromitos, PAS Giannina, Iraklis, Thyella Kamari Group B: AEK Athens, Lamia, Apollon Larissa, Volos NFC Group ? Panetolikos, Panathinaikos, AO Chania Kissamikos, OF Ierapetra Group ? PAOK, Aris Thessaloniki, Ergotelis, Aittitos Spata Group E: Olympiakos, Levadiakos, Panachaiki, Aris Avato Group F: Asteras Tripolis, Apollon Smyrnis, Trikala, Apollon Paralimnio Group G: Xanthi, OFI Crete, Kerkyra, Niki Volos Group H: Panionios, AEL, Apollon Pontou, Irodotos Some interesting results. Looking forward to seeing these matches and hopefully some upsets.