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Mitroglou is our best striker by far. Karelis is decent but he's made of glass and toss up whether he plays a season or not. Also he's more of ss than pure striker from what I've seen. He always plays with a partner at club level. Not playing proper wingers is what hurts us. Should be Donis on the left Lazaros on the right for 60 mins and Fetfa for the last 30 mins. Besides that we're very slim on the wings department. Chatzigiovannis looks promising though and Masouras too.

As for Tzioli$, Toro, Samaris, Fortounis, Mantalos, Mykonos and Angelos, they remind me of a Toby Keith song on Youtube "I'm not as good as I once was". One of my favourites. This is so them.

Did you miss the Euro 2016 qualifiers? Also FYI, Ninis plays more thank Tachtsidis atm. Taxi has not played a minute this seaso

I disagree with this strongly. The team can’t create decent chances because we are so friken slow. Fetfa and Donis would really help us be faster and offer much more creativity out wide than the crap we have seen from Mantalos, Bakasetas and Pelkas.

Dean, I agree. Despite where he is playing, I guarantee you he would not look out of place with the NT, especially in its current state. No I am not saying he should be called up, but it's not like our midfielders are setting the world on fire either.

Yeah I agree. Sokratis shouldn’t of said something like that. It’s not that he can do any better, he is the defender I think he was indirectly talking about our midfield and attacking players. Can they do any better? I like Samaris but he doesn’t like to shoot which is an issue. I’ve singled him out because he plays with a confidence in our midfield and is sharp. He is also technically better with the ball I believe. Unlike the others. I liked the combination of him and Taxi and I would have liked to see this be given more of a chance. I d play Samaris as the 6 and Bouzoukis as the 8. Fortounis can stay for now. Then the wide attacking players should Donis and either Chatzigiovannis or Fetfa. Up front I want to see Karelis. This would be different, fresh and more importantly unpredictable. I think the reason the Karagounis and Katsouranis era were successful was because the attack back then were unpredictable. The wide attackers would run down the line sprinting for example Samaras and Salpingidis. Mantalos and Pelkas wouldn’t do this for some reason. They are not that slow either. Another example would be when Salpingidis would set up Mitroglou’s goal in the match against Romania to qualify for the wc. The team now looks like they are afraid to make a mistake. Then they would start shooting instead of passing and then pass instead of shooting. We need players with balls, hunger and talent.

Let’s not compare the 2 countries. Canada is horrible. But Canada is the only country in the world that has dominated their first sport. What Canada has done in hockey will never be done in any sport around the world by any country.

We shouldn’t be making fun of our own player. Do you think he wanted to end up like this? I agree with @nasl his passing and skill were way ahead than any other Greek player apart from Fetfa. Ninis might be playing at the lowest level but that shouldn’t mean he is our worst player. If anything we should be backing him with any chance we get. I don’t like hearing sarcastic remarks about him. It’s not like Fortounis, Pelkas or Mantalos are proving to be any better for the national team.

Yeah I don’t know what has to be done now. You’d think the loss to faores and Luxembourg over the years would somehow motivate the team to be better but now this trend of losing to 2 star teams continue. Whats the next plan now. It’s starting to get frustrating with losing to these teams over and over again. It’s disappointing. Im still optimistic but how can you be with this trend going and not knowing when it will stop. Against better teams we play better and show up. We just have to hope big changes happen. Otherwise we will be seeing the same thing.

I read that our new coach wants to concentrate on a stingier defense and line awareness so your line-up might not accomplish that worm. Do you guys think we might see Basha in there along with Matilla and Siopis?

I’d go with this 23 in the future... Vlachodimos, Barkas, Gianniotis, Torosidis, Retsos, Manolas, Sokratis, Siovas, Koutris, Tsimikas, Kourbelis, Samaris, Zeca, Galanopoulos, Pelkas, Fortounis, Chatzigiovannis, Bouzoukis, Fetfatzidis, Mitroglou, Masouras, Karelis, Donis... I like playing with wingers. I’d have no more than 3DMs. Kourbelis can also play CB. We have a problem at RB so Retsos and Torosidis will do for now. This team looks shaken up with good experience and talented youth. Bouzoukis should be looked at for that CM role. He is better than Bakasetas. I picked Mitroglou even though I didn’t want him. We really have no one else in that position.

I don't recall anyone saying "laz, Fetfa and Donis are the saviours" but simply I think people are fed up with playing the same guys with no results... And fyi you don't know if Donis and Fetfa wont workout because we haven't tried them together.. We no for sure that Pelkas and Mantalos are not the answer as they've played numerous games together and look at the results they have produced.. hopefully some younger guy that comes up can produce but until they do I think a good coach would try different guys if the current group are not producing.. Don t you?? But I always recall you saying that we wont be good unless we have a Renaldo or a Mbappe or Mesi… Sure having a superstar helps immensely but realistically in 2004 we beat Ronaldo, Nedved, Zidane, so as long as you have competent players with some skill that buy into a system you can actually be successful.. Korea beat Germany 2-0 in the world cup and I'm pretty sure Korea has no superstars.. Sweden got pretty far with NO superstars either...

He is in form at 88 online now. Highest rating ever attained by a Greek player in FIFA.