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You are either very naive or a mindless Marinakis drone.. here is a dose of reality with regards to the corrupt world of professional football: https://www.google.ca/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/football/2009/jul/01/money-laundering-football-anti-corruption http://theconversation.com/off-the-pitch-and-off-the-books-professional-footballs-money-laundering-problem-39222 normally, I would give the benefit of doubt to any owner of a team. Unfortunately, Vaggela runs heroine, bribes/threatens officials, and is accused of various other illicit activities.. You stick to your beliefs, and I'll stick to mine. Thanks.

One of the few bright spots in a lacklustre summer has been the play of some of the clubs young bloods, Manthatis, Retsos, Androutsos, ex PAO skipper Goumas, who has coached all three for the U-19 Greek squad thinks especially highly of Retsos in particular. Seems like some good work has been done somewhere in the youth team. Our second list of youth players for EL competition can actually step up this year and make an impact, a couple have already, bravo to the palikaria, keep making us proud and sky may be the limit who knows.

Lest we forget what Vaggela has been accused of.. Koriopolis is the name given by the Greek press to a match fixing scandal in Greek football that came to light in June 2011.[1][2][3]The investigation centres on offences that include illegal gambling, fraud, extortion and money laundering. (...) Among the 68 suspects listed by judicial authorities on 24 June 2011 were Greek Super League chairman and Olympiacos owner Evangelos Marinakis https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koriopolis

I don't get your post... I wrote my initial post therefore I stand by it... "published transfer details" can easily be fabrications. I provided you with 2 links to investigations conducted the last few years that say so. Hell, fabrications passed off as fact happen all the in other domains like in the financial world for example. (Insider trading, housing bubble, corrupt CEOs, and that is done with people's life savings!). Are you going to tell me that, of the 22 footballing countries that have been penetrated by organized crime's money laundering schemes, Greece is squeaky clean? That at the head of all that, Vaggela, accused of multiple nefarious activities is beyond any of this? like I said, stick to you beliefs...

Who, Kostas "I got what I wanted, now I don't give a s%$#!" Manolas? Shocker.

Nick I agree. These are just friendlies, but just to remind those who may not have seen that match against Australia in Melbourne. Hellas literally and metaphorically demolished Australia in that first 30 minutes. I have never seen pressing like that before. It took Australia nearly 10 minutes to get out of their own half. Hopefully that match is the turning point and after the win tonight we build momentum going in to the real matches.

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We are going to win the World Cup.

There has to be more transparency, which I believe it's also a requirement since the clubs are not private properties anymore. Proper audits and accounting must be available to everybody. This way we can see how much money circulates and where it goes. But, I'm expecting too much in the mess the whole country is in....

Again, I stand by my initial post. If I didn't I would not have typed it. Not denying NOTHING. I stated my belief. I have no proof but I do base my opinion on what I have read about corruption in football and Vaggela's spotty history. Not hard to make a link there buddy.. The guy has used Olympiacos and Greek soccer fo personal profit. (Match fixing, money laundering, threats, bribery, heroine smuggling via Noore 1 have all been linked to him. ...) if you want to believe that Poulido, after seeing minimal action on the pitch, fetched such a high price, good on you! If you care to read the links I posted, you will see how laundering of cash is done in many football leagues around the world. You will also notice that my belief resembles many of those cases... On another note, Where has all that CL money gone? now that he lost automatic qualification for the CL, how much has Baggela spent on your team? Care to inform us? Who am I kidding, in your eyes, he could do no evil...

Fair play, but for me most of the blame goes to the coach and the players, they created nothing. Just on the players pride alone they should have never tied let alone lost against a decent but much less quality opponent.

Denial? What am I denying exactly? Marinakis' legitimacy? That would be a resounding yes! ;) as for you, keep on hearing, seeing, and speaking no evil... with regards to everything Olympiacos

I believe the word is called precedence... Read some more: http://www.espn.com/sports/soccer/news/_/id/6699614/greek-league-chief-vangelis-marinakis-linked-corruption-scandal http://m.dailykos.com/story/2014/11/21/1346521/-Soccer-kingpin-Evangelos-Marinakis-under-international-scrutiny

"How many saves did our keepers have to make against Hollish shots of 25+ meters?" Are you even trying ? Our defence couldn't let them break into our goallie area (i didnt watch the match just the highlights) and like all their shots apart from their goal were outside the area. Our defence worked almost perfectly. With an unfit Torosidis, an unfit 6ari named Maniatis and our 3rd choice LB we didn't give them much space to handle. And yeah, Huntelaar was missing - their best CF right now (since RVP is probably not competing at NT level again), Arjeen Robben,Janmaat were missing, but: Wijnaldum was there, Sneidjer was there, Klaasen was there, Quincy Promes was there (most of u dont know about this talent but hes gotten lots of focus from the dutch media), Nasrigh,BasDost were there offensivewise. Defensivewise, Bruma, Zoet(the best GK they have according to Dutch themselves in international football forums), Blind, Strootman, Willems, they were there. Apart from Huntelaar, I still don't believe in Arjeen Robben being the dutch NT's σημαία coz he is being at least 4 months/year (summer excluded) injured which means the team - the same team that has qualified in every tournament lately apart from euro 16 - has made it there with or without his help. We beat a powerhouse team's A+B team combined, some A players played some B players played. We had Tzavellas as a Left Back and we saw Bakasetas, Maniatis,Papadopoulos and Kapinos play, so what? This is a good result. I don't know if the team has big chances to qualify for the WC but I know they will fight for it. The fact that we ended up in Pot 3 for this tournament qualifiers is the reason qualification is a big IF, were we in Belgium's side and having a pot 3 team like Montenegro/Finland instead would mean no big trouble. Also, Cyprus beating Turkey is bad news.

Ok so i decide to ditch a match after 15 mins when we re losing 1-0 coz its a no-hope, and focus on getting laid with a chick, she comes over we watch the cartoon movie zootopia and we fuk and I end up missing our best match in 2 years and 2 months? Nah man, that's unfair.

TELOS!!!!! 2-1!!!!!!!! FIRST WIN EVER AGAINST THE NETHERLANDS!!!!!

The Dutch EPO by the way looks like the Greek one. Total chaos. The director quitted. Assistent-coach Advocaat went to Fenerbahce. Ruud Gullit doesn't want to come as a replacement at the end. Marco van Basten will leave to work for FIFA. The teammanager must quit at 67 while players want to have him stay. No EURO 2016. Where there used to be a lot of love voor Oranje everybody is grumpy at the moment. Tomorrows game is considered very important as Sweden is waiting. Therefore I expect a real game.