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HE JUST PASSED FORWARD! IT WAS GLORIOUS!

players who are 30+ should not be fielded unless they are exceptional. Karagounis was exceptional. Torosidis you could make an argument. Tziolis, Vyntra, Moras. NO.

Original21, you are missing the point of we can't beat teams like Lux or FI with this line then we are absolute garbage. I don't care who we field against these teams we should never lose.

But we beat Hungary get real... We are the worst European team alive. Bring on the World Cup campaign boys

Still better than Tziolis, at least he can pass.

The Gavro ths troumbas calling another poster "American boy" is just too much!!! :lol:

Giannou is doing better the past 2 years than Vellios. So Giannou is probably our 3rd. UNLESS Samaras gets a club and scores at least once every 4th game. (This is could very much happen). Vellios will probably steak a claim within the next 2 years though. Iraklis is really going for it. Despite the low table score, their spirit is uncanny. I don't think they'll get relegated for a few years, if not many years.

^^^^91 :tup:

Zeca is crap! Would not even have him in my 5 aside team!!! How is he caption as well........then again they had nesef Morris as captain one time

in all fairness and if you can stop for a minute crying about the referees like small childeren all the time please stop it, if you look at the PAO squad it's pretty decent the problem is the balance. You have good players like Berg, Karelis, Ninis, Sanchez and Essien (if ever fit) who have to play with v-ethniki material like Wemmer, Tavlaridis and Koutroubis. The luck is that cheap players like Nano, Steele and so on seem to be good players. Even with the losers like Wemmer and Tavlaridis you should have qualified in Europe no excuses. Also Zeca is so overrated. Captain or not. Always first in battle or not. He is very average. Don?t want to start a war it?s just how I see the squad. If it was a little more balanced and lucky (injuries) there would be no crying because a squad like this is better then AEK.. PAOK but nowhere close to O-LYM-PIA-KOS.

Was anyone able to answer your question about Greek clubs down under Dutch? If not I'd be happy to list them EDIT: Had some spare time so I've whipped this up. In Australia's national competition that ran from 1977 to 2004 (National Soccer League), most clubs were of ethnic background, Greek, Italian, Croatian, Hungarian etc. Greek clubs that played in this competition came from the cities of, Melbourne (where you have the largest Greek population outside of cities Athens and Thessaloniki) Sydney and Adelaide. Melbourne: South Melbourne Hellas Est 1959- Still the countries most successful ever club. 4X NSL Champions, 1 Oceanic Champions League Title and an appearance in the FIFA Club World Cup (where they played Manchester United). Heidelberg United Est 1958- Formed by Makedones mostly from Florina, 2X NSL runner's up Sydney: Sydney Olympic Est 1957 - 2x NSL Champions Adelaide: West Adelaide Hellas Est 1962 - 1 NSL championship The folding of the NSL started up a new national league (The A League) where clubs of ethnic background were not permitted (at least the more stigmatised ethnicities like Greeks, Italians and Croatians) entry and mostly brand new clubs were born. The Greek clubs mentioned have since played in their domestic leagues in the states of Victoria (Melbourne), New South Wales (Sydney) and South Australia (Adelaide). Seeing as the A League does not have a second tier competition the domestic league, the NPL (National Premier League) is run within each of Australia's states and territories. This is where you'll find many more Greek clubs like the one which you saw in Darwin Olympic who play in the Northern Territory. Domestically clubs and players of ethnic background still dominate, this is why you see players with Greek, Italian, Croatian last names running around in Australian shirts. However not as many as before when the NSL was running. The NPL is a semi-professional level however the big Greek clubs like South Melbourne and West Adelaide still have aspirations of gaining entry into the A League. The two states who's NPL are the nation's strongest in my opinion would be New South Wales and Victoria. I'll now quickly list as many Greek NPL clubs as I know, there are many, many more clubs playing in several other competitions below the NPL also. Victoria: Bentleigh Greens (Cypriot) Northcote City Oakleigh Cannons Port Melbourne South Melbourne Heidelberg New South Wales: Sydney Olympic Hamilton Olympic South Australia: Adelaide Comets Adelaide Olympic West Adelaide Hellas Adelaide Cobras (Cypriot, play in another division below) Western Australia: Floreat Athena Northern Territory: Darwin Olympic Hellenic Athletic Queensland: Olympic FC ACT: Canberra Olympic Tasmania: Olympia FC

Glad to see both of them make an appearance. Especially since Konstantinidis was injured for so long. Hopefully he'll feature for us again soon.

Same, my gut instinct is telling me this will work really well. We have to wait a few matches to decide BUT he seems very keen to make his Greece campaign THE defining campaign of his career. Good vibes indeed.

Hope Tziolis gets to wear the armband when he gets on in the 70 minute mark. Manolas's star keeps growing the more he doesn't play. He has been touted as a captain now. If he misses another six games, he will run the EPO as well.

Olympiakos is also the only team in Greece to constantly be in Europe and not even get to a Semi Final or a Final and they've had more attempts than ANY OTHERT TEAM in Greece, great history. When you get to one then run your mouth until then AEK and PAO laugh at you :)