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Yeah the people who crowd in a house/bar most always did that. We might get one or two extra people doing that, but thats it. So we can't really expect them to pay up. The good news is that the bars cant relly on crappy illegal streams because they just get stuck all the time. So they will be paying for sure.

That number could be higher globally, but what you dont' take into account are the amount of fans that go watch Paoks match in a bar no matter what, what you don't take account are friends, who always watch games at their friends, what you don't take into account are Paok families who most likely will share a TV. Its not everybody duty to pay for this, certainly not a 10 year old kids or a 80 year old grandpa. Its not their duty to go change their watching habbits or pay for something just for the hell of it. So how many unique streams can you possibly get at most? 100,000 youtube averaged for crappy summer friendlies, If youtube streamed a hyped game, how many pure paok fans would stream it?

That's pretty good numbers already, either-way we probably gonna get more money out of that then the new ert deal. Like I said this needs a season ticket to fully set off. As soon as thats done, I'm imagine subs will rocket. I bet a lot of people are holding out due to either laziness or thinking their going to get some sort of deal (as in it would be slightly cheaper to buy a season ticket then to pay for every single game). People ain't exactly made of gold. Also are the tv app/andrioid/ios app even ready yet? The issue of multiple people using one account can be easily solved, just limit the streams, its easy. The technology is available for this. Have a 5 euro per single stream hard limit ( or two 2 streams top) , and that's it. Have a more expensive package for buinsess where you can limit the stream by going elsewhere by using the IP's location. Most important to remember this is a product. Team plays unattractive football less people will be inclined to pay (thats also meaning opponents fans). Also some sort of pregame content, and other post could also help to make it more attractive in general. Maybe also stream the Youth games on it? Or perhaps have some live streams of trainings? Just shooting ideas here. Theres a lot that could be done in general. Perhaps if this becomes more popular you can expand this to more sports too.

Its juat lazyness to be fair and also games vs no-bodypteams aint that attractive, so thats why a package of lets say 80 euros would be better. Theres no issue i just image that more fans would rather have to pay everything upfront then pay per game.

Olympiacos is deffineltety not the same, there seemingly better and they just acquired a few extra signings which we don't know how they will impact the team. Paok on the other hand is shaky, our defence has seemingly fallen asleep in the past few games, which seems to randomly fall asleep, and conceives a easy goal on the counter. Paok has been going on a shoot out vs its opponents, and its not the way to go. Think we still need one or two players. There was a reason why Paok was planning signings before the Ajax games, but decided to wait till after. I hope this doesn't mean we get no new additions.

I bet a large amount of fans want a subscription. I haven't brought a single game due to there being no yearly package

We're not winning this league with our set of players.

Actually they can't https://paokvoice.com/253193/slovan-kata-paok?fbclid=IwAR1RFJW-V-XdkYhoG6t2WSjkJxaH5QoPxth_scWtNBsFcjRMF_gyhZgZrek https://www.skslovan.com/clanok7163-Odveta_len_prostrednictvom_internetoveho_prenosu.htm Game is only available on PAOK TV

If Var was used don't worry, your players would had also been sent off. Afterwards you mentioned that our sad excuse is because our team is not more famous.... well your team is more profitable, it brings in more viewership. It brings more money to UEFA. If you can't see why on earth UEFA wouldn't want to rig this match, then I dunno what to say to you. I can't believe you wasted time to create an account to moan about how non-Greek players playing for a Greek club didn't shake your dutch teams hands.

Its the future anyway, every team will probably stream through the internet in the future. So Paok is definitely giving it self a head start figuring these problems now rather then the future. Paok probably has over a million fans globally, if all tune into Paoks online TV then that is a huge amount of money. Paok could atleast earn 4.99 million Euro for a shitty Panionios game, without ad revenue. Its more then ERT or anyone would ever pay in Greece. Now imagine a scenario where Paok plays against global team like Bayern, Barcelona, Liverpool where the only way to watch the game is through PAOK's website. A single match against the big brand global teams would pour more money then half of whatever Olympiacos will earn this season in champions league, and at best case scenario it would give Paok more money after a single match that Olympiacos could earn through all its champions league campaign. This online Paok tv push would have happened sooner or later.

Well if the stream explodes we could be looking at additional revenue from adverts during half time and sponsors, plus paok will be in control of all their games, meaning that they could negotiate directly with any foreign countries tv stations interested in picking up their games, which means more direct revenue to paok, without some other 2nd party eating it up. So potentially there could be more money in for paok, however that's a lot of what ifs and there will be a lot of trail and error to get it up to that level. But this definitely needs a season ticket.

If Var was used in this game most of Ajax goals would had not happened but coincidentally the use of Var was not yet approved for this stage, which made manipulating this match dead easy.

Frankly Ajax players didn't deserve to have their hands shaken. They clearly noticed the ref bias and decided to abuse it. You can't blame the Greek players for jumping on the referee either he deserved it. I don't expect Ajax to go far at all this year the way they are playing.

G14 should totally break away and create the own league, it would fail spectacularly when they realise that only a few people actually want to watch other countries same exact teams battle it out.

Under the new proposed changed, from what I gathered it makes national leagues rather useless. Its gonna have a trickle effect their own league, where their league doesn't get any money because, tis always the same teams going in because of their rankings and not league position. So even the big teams with half a brain should see how bad this could be a few years down the line.

Yeah latvia wouldnt even get in under my own format, their league level would be too low to get in directly. 55 leagues, not all will be able to qualify directly. Probably something like the top 15-20, the remaining would be thought over in the playoffs. Your point with the viewership revenue is correct, especially with a small nation team like latvia. Well if the powerhouses clubs want to break away then let them; the way we are heading I wouldn't be suprised if non-powerhouse clubs decided to break away. Maybe it would be better to let the powerhouse break away, have their own little club, while UEFA can scrap the whole farce and start from scratch. The effect would be that suddenly every team in Europe becomes an attractive investment opportunity; no unfair uphill battle to get into champions league. The smaller teams start building their own fan bases and eventually may grow as big. The level of football would be more equal, thus the product more interesting. Which in the long term might make more money. Watching a Champions league where same teams win it every year certainly isn't interesting.

I do honestly think that each country should be limited two two spots in champions league, done. That's how you make champions league fair. Its a league of champions. 1st teams go in automatically 2nd teams play off. This way a few leagues don't hog all the revenue from champions league. Or another option is that no country qualifies automatically and they all have to play through playoffs and each country gets two representatives. So essentially that could equal two games each before the champions league, with some extremely low league teams having to play a few extra games.

Its bullshit, there making it harder and harder for smaller teams to become big. I hope it bites them hard in their ass, and that viewership actually falls further. Champions league was so much more interesting when small teams where able to get to semi-finals and finals, probably the viewership would had been more if the more if it happened more often (aka supporting the black horse). ts an unattractive product? Not a lot of people care about watching another countries team, so making sure these big teams are cemented is not going to help. Another reason they mentioned is that its supposed to help small teams compete? But how exactly, when the big cemented teams are rich beyond measure. I guess we might be facing a basketball like situation where a large amount of Europeans teams go F*** it and create their own international tournament with fairer rules.

Another link: https://www.vipleague.lc/1-paok-vs-ajax-live-streaming

Maybe the coach decided to give him one last chance? No one knows.

Yeah but we gonna lose more money if selling Akpom will be reason why we don't qualify past Ajax. We need to keep him for now, not enough time to find a substitute. I do reckon we'd offer him a better a contract. I consider 10 million meh, we live in a time where average players go for more on the international market.

He doesn't need to score a goal or to have amazing through balls but to me from what I saw from the vids.. he's able to hold the ball.. in the midfield and defense, and our midfield was being chocked even with Oliviera around against low league teams. Those low league teams couldn't punish us especially with Pashalaki guarding us.. but imagine playing against someone stronger in the champions league. Sure we could have a contest who scores more goals but that is not the way to go. So I do think he's better suited to our needs. Of course I do still think that getting another more offensive midfielder wouldn't be a bad idea. Somebody who has a good through ball, stamina and has a good shot too.

I think Esiti; is a better player then Olivera and all the other midfielders we've been looking at, hes the glue we needed between the attack and the defence. Someone who doesn't mindlessly kick the ball away or runs ahead like a mindless chicken. Definitely a positive addition. Cant wait to see our future moves.

Fabio Coentrao got rejected by Porto because of the protest of Porto's fans. Good for him, karma is a bitch.

Basically Ajax reserve team (no main players).