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Really he wasn't ? Summer after WC 2014 Olympiakos goes to ICC in USA , Diamantakos used as CenterForward scores 2-3 goals there. Before that he was just known as a Olympiakos youth system product, nothing serious. Matchday 1 for Euro 2016 against Romania in August-September : he is in the starting line-up, used as a Left Winger. Bouchalakis is with Olympiakos 4 years. 2013-2017. He had 22 formal matches with Olympiakos. How exactly can you understand if he was good with literally 5 matches/ season, and most of them in the cup, against B Ethniki and Relegation tier teams? Anyways i hope i made you understand that we re simply overexaggerating when some players step up out of nowhere and possibly take a transfer outside Greece. Trust me , I hope I am wrong, but for now we re just rushing to name him a big players, to fill in the gap of a missing 8 in our NT, since we haven't had a proper one after Karagounis.

Very nice results for the Cypriot League lately. I expect Apoel to have a decent run in the Groupstages and hopefully a 2nd-3rd spot. How are your teams in Europa Going. I know AEK Larnaka was stolen of a qualification because of a referee mistake. Did anything happen about that?

Thats exactly what we shouldn't do. Bouchalakis is getting praised after just 90 minutes in championship? Are you serious? Friendly reminder that the whole reason why Diamantakos started getting called up in the Greek National Team was ONE friendly match vs Manchester City. Do you consider him enough after so many miserably bad appearances?

Holding midfield is way too stacked right now, and Im gonna consider it stacked even after some players depart. Siopis/Zdjelar/ Androutsos leaving still leaves Romao/Gillet/Ofoe/ Tachtsidis in the holding mids position 4 players for 2 spots seems enough. And I doubt that all 3 of the ones i named first are leaving. Wingers/Attacking mids we got Marin/Carcela/Fortounis/Seba/Manthatis/Martinez. expecting Martinez to wave us goodbye. Stacked again. Strikers Ben/Emenike/Seba/Ansarifard. Karim most possible case is leaving us. 3 players again for one position. Stacked. Fullbacks Koutris/Milic/Omar/Figueiras. one starter and one back up for each side. Gillet can fill the positions as well. Goalkeepers starter Kapino Backup Gianniotis. was excellent with Panionios, many man of the match awards last year. Can't say I feel unsafe with him. 3rd keeper from the academies to gain experience, as happens in every big club. Stacked. Centerbacks Retsos/Botia/Cisse/Nikolaou/Vukovic. Botia is been asked from bigger clubs. Retsos from even more big clubs. Can't see both of them staying. Cisse/Nikolaou not even close to professional defenders yet. Vukovic not sure yet, can't say we have a complete image of the player. And yet, the team is running for another center forward in Djudjevic? What is going on in their minds. just give 2-3 million and take a center back that can upgrade the team for good and possibly give us a good campaign in Europe. 2.25 million is the cost of Zapata, and im sure there are at least 10-15 world class CBs, maybe in a dicline age but still above anything we could hope for who would be willing to come to Olympiakos and help with their experience. I assume it's too soon to judge since by getting in to the group stage more players might wanna come but for now the team seems fine to beat a poor team Rijeca with ease, so no new additions might come.

i ve heard we ll have him with Belgium. I guess Estonia as well.

We can talk about Siopis in 3 months. If he has any playtime in the current Olympiakos he is gonna become a leader there.

If Belgium draws or even loses to Bosnia we re gonna end up 3rd. Their mentality (talking about Bosnians) right now is dropped to the floor but a result (draw/win) vs Belgium means they have the upper hand on taking 2nd spot. That might Lift them to the sky, because if they do we actually need a result from Belgium AGAIN. Belgium currently is in a mood "just get over with these qualifiers already". A defeat to Bosnia will bring them back to reality and maybe that hits hard on us. I am not expecting a draw or win vs Belgium in Athens, unless they stomp Bosnia so hard that they ve already secured 1st spot.

Don't get any hopes on Bouchalakis yet, at least that is my opinion. He is usually one month wow and then invisible. It's either that or never given a proper chance until now. Kone ,Ninis , Lazaros ,Fetfa , Holebas are gone offensively. We re literally left with 2 Attacking Mids , one of hem very good when willing (Fortounis) and a Mediocre one in Mantalos. Donis , Gianniotas some wingers and Mitroglou Karelis Vellios our forwards. Noone else deserves to be called up right now. Championship side Nottingham still has 3 games until call ups are announced Bouchalakis and Possibly Vellios can be looked into in detail. Siopis disapointed me by staying with Olympiakos. Gillet , Romao , Ofoe , Tachtsidis , Siopis , Zdjelar , Androutsos 7 players. Most possible outcome Siopis Zdjelar Androutsos wave goodbye getting offloned. Most possible outcome for Siopis in particular: Gets playing time in a Levadiakos tier team , faces reality that he just ruined his career and never steps up to his potential.

Every time the ranking changes I think is in favor of us. We re getting away from the 3 yearsa ago games we had in the Euro qualification campaign and once in a lifetime achievers , aka teams that literally somehow just managed to qualify for the Euro (Czech Republic, Ukraine, Albania, Romania, North. Ireland) are getting further away meaning that, if we keep up the good performances we ll sooner or later surpass them. The number is not a big of a deal. Sure #38 still is low for our roster and our achievements as a team, but what we should consider for now is our ranking in UEFA which is #22. Austria will probably be surpassed by the end of the qualifying campaign of WC and I doubt they ll even go for the play offs. Turkey will probably be surpassed as well due to teir hard group, while we will probably see at least 7 points (at worse) in our upcomming 4 matches. Close behind us however are Czech, who I doubt will surpass us, but also Serbia and Denmark. Hopefully we ll make it in pot 2 before the campaign is over so we have better chances for Euro Qualifiers.

Sadly, most of these you said is not going to happen. Olympiakos already has some decent midfielders in Tachtsidis Siopis Romao Androutsos even Retsos for the 6-8 position. Yet they are still hunting 2 more in Ofoe and Gillet. Which means Siopis and Androutsos will probably leave team, or just stay there and get benched for life because of the UEFA rules for Greek Players. Zdjelar leaves as well I expect Retsos to be the only youth starter this season. I also expect Pardo, De La Bella, Risvanis to leave.

Mantalos also secured the 3 pointer to a very threatening cyprus, by making the score 2-0. I am not comparing anyone with Lukaku. Read what I said. Sokratis got baited to that goal, thinking Lukaku is gonna turn the other way. Watch the video again and again your baby boy Sokratis εχει μεγάλη ευθύνη. If you look the highlights of the Bosnia-Greece game, Sokratis made 2-3 crucial mistakes as well, just wasn't Dzeko's day. If you wanna look to individual mistakes, as I said, we ll only probably be left with players that didn't play with the Ethniki yet, because the mistake factor is key to this sport. Positioning, good passing and transition in the midfield, even a free kick choice that don't go well are all mistakes. They are all professionals. They surely can exchange a couple of passes. They surely can cross and shoot. But the point is doing so on the right time and under the pressure from a strong opponent. Me and you from our Kanape could do much better. But would we? At the end of a day, a Greek side leaving without conceding in Bosnia is almost perfect. As Bosnians said to their forums. Holding a 0-1 in Belgium and Mantalos scoring that goal could actually mean we were by 90% qualified for the World Cup right now. But it could have been vise versa, and Belgium scoring more than once to us and Bosnia as well. Take the result and be happy as I said. We re no Spain, we are no Bercelona. We just stepped outside a reforming period and we re gonna need time to reach pot 1-2 again, if the aim and the fournies of new Greek players allows it.

If you guys wanna search for every player that cost us a goal or a point/points in this campaign you re gonna laugh to the players remaining. Sokratis got baited man to man from Lukaku, thought hed turn left, he turned right. But noone complaining that his mistake cost us a 3 pointer and possibly first place in Belgium. Because he is Sokratis, right? Mistakes happen. How many mistakes did the Bosnians do in offence? How many missed opportunities they had? You only remember the Mantalos one. But if we take into account their misses vs ours, we d lose somewhat like 4-2 on that match. Be happy we got the one point. Also laughable is that people saw Donis on the wings once and demand him to be there because he is a natural winger. He is not. He is a striker as well. He did look a lot better than anyone else we ve tried there, that's for sure.

Can someone inform me which players are worth watching from AEK. Which ones can actually give it a push for Champions League?

From 2000 and on Bundesliga has won no Europa League and has had a Finalist twice. Ukraine has the same stats in Europa with Bundesliga. Portugal has much better stats in Europa than Bundesliga. The Russian has better stats in Europa than Bundesliga. Nothing too good. Apart from Dortmund and Bayern the other German teams dont bring success. What I said was just about Rome Idk why you mentioned Bundesliga. Roma is poor as a team. Bad mamagement and no serious plan, for a team of their history and calibre. They re bad. They re , as you said, top 2-3 team in Italy, and look their European runs. Zenit has had much better runs. It really looks more than a fact than a personal Opinion. The Russian Championship is a downgrade from Serie A, but the team is the same level.

Our only decent players on the wings can be Gianniotas and Donis. Skibbe uses Mantalos and Bakasetas because they work a lot during the game and run up and down to help defense. Skibbe is parking the bus better than Mourinho and you are complaining so much lol. We ve conceded 3 goals in 6 matches, and found on our way teams with elite attacking players Bosnia and Belgium. 3 goals in 6 matches. And you people complaining why the team, one year after its reforming/ressurection is not playing as good as Spain or Barcelona. Laughable.

No my friend it aint. Just because someone's nationality is Argentine, Portuguese, Spanish it doesnt make him a better player. Figueiras/De Labella/Cardozo/Martins/Bruno Viana/Italian GK whom I ve already forgot his name. Do you actually believe any of them were anything close to decent? Retsos became a starter because the others , in LB and CB were not up for it. And luckily, he was good. Do you rate Da Costa anything close to Siovas? Siovas was named as a top missing player of the WC 2014. Do you honestly believe a out of form Siovas is anything close to how bad Da Costa was? De La Bella. Maybe the best of the worst. Could be considered a good signing namewise, teamwise. But in the end didn't give anything more to the team. Loanmove was fine. No way we have to buy this. Cardozo. Yeah, we ended up playing with Seba as a for half the season. Nothing more needs to be said. Bruno Viana. Retsos stepped up and this signing was useless (at best). I don't know why they thought we needed a new CenterBack if it was just going to be having equal playtime and be in the equal level of our academy greek boys. Bad signing. Id rather have kept Laifis or Goutas. Italian GK. All he had to do was step up and show he is a fine keeper in one match. Home vs Besiktas. Game ended 1-1 with Olympiakos hunting for a goal in Turkey. Pretty much sums up what we got. Another loan, but still. I believe the Panionios Gianniotis would be nothing worse. Overall, Players of Olympiakos on loan had much better seasons , with lower teams than Olympiakos, than most of our signings. Siovas starter in La Liga. Gianniotas , starter and progressed higher to both Champions League (reached the Play-Off) and Europa League (his team beat Bilbao and went further). He played 43 matches for Apoel. 8 goals 7 assists. Ben at panionios starter. 36 matches. 9 goals 6 assists. Laifis. Starter in standart 36 matches. Almost champion of Belgium. His value when Olympiakos bought him was 1 million. Now , one season later. It is 3 million. Probably sais something. Gianniotis of Panionios. Well no need for explanation. He was evne called up for National team. Goutas team didnt have a good season. I think Kortrijt almost relegated? Anyways, my point is, put Bruno Viana in his spot and it would probably be the same outcome. Im not trying to call any of these players world class ready to stomp the world and win the Champions League and the world cup. Im just trying to prove how biased you are because their flag isnt Brazilian, Spanish or Portugese. The only decent signings this season were Karim Ansarifard and was nothing special to be honest, Romao and Elyounoussi. So far, Marko Marin has not proven his name and worth. All im saying is that Olympiakos COULD NOT DO ANY WORSE this season, if he sticked to Bouchalakis and Androutsos instead of Martins, Gianniotas and/or Ben instead of Marko Marin. Dimitris Goutas instead of Brouno Viana. Gianniotis instead of the Italian loaned Goalkeeper. Laifis/Retsosinstead of De La Bella. ANYONE(obviously Omar) instead of Paredes. If you really believe the players I mentioned being worthless (70% of our signings) proved anything. Then it's not me who is wishfully thinking. It is you thinking that Olympiakos actually cares anymore.

Nah. In Europe Roma is a meme. A joke proving how onesided Serie A is. Neingolan, Dzeko, Manolas were seriously their only players I rated 2 last seasons. Pjanic too did the right choice to leave.

if he is a starter/top sub/ and he doesnt roast in the bench It is a good move. His playtime at benfica was minimum anyways.

probably permanenti ve read. No official rumours have been announced yet,however. Juventus was just looking to sell him but they refused Nice offer. Too bad coz he could play at champions league and maybe gather interest from a better team. I guess It could be better that his career is moving very smoothly.

Even if they do, I dont think they ll have the advnatage in points tie. They re not that good offenisvely at least in this group. we have one goal less than them and we re a very defensive nation. They ve downgraded a lot since last timewe met.

Good move. in a team where he ll have solid playtime. Hamburg is a historic team. Lately being poor but I doubt they ll keep up being bottom tier much. Also I heard they re building a team for this year.

Its almost a done deal. he is going to newly promoted Stuttgart in Bundesliga. I guess hes gonna be a starter sooner or later in the NT.

Zenit has had much better european results than Roma. The Championship is much lower tier, but he is not going to a worse team.

The paperas always say stuff about players that end up having a low impact in the team. Id ratehr the team bought every youth talent in Greece. We d make a much better team than las season, guarnateed.

This Switzerland is good but totally not unbeatable. Much lower tier than Any other team. Italy/Spain means we have 75% chanc to have a favorable/even/not so miserable draw. Spain/Italy is just impossible. But Id love to see our boys give a fight in the playoffs vs a good team. Even if we lose id be proud if we didnt get down so easily. Everyone keeps praising Sweden but Sweden/Holland arent so much of a bad draw.