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He is sabotaging our chances to become a decent competitive team. Thankfully our defence keeps us competitive. If we defended the the way we attack we wouldnt even be in the playoffs. We would be dead last with 1 or 2 goals. Our attack needs a massive shake up. We need two central midfielders that are continously running/moving. We need our wingers or wingbacks to have more freedom position wise in attack. Skibbe has said he will change things. I'd like to see him keep his word.

I agree alefantos in that video said why doesn't Kourbelis play in Tziolis spot. So.ethi g we have all been saying. Most of the stuff he says makes sense. I didn't realise he put Torosidis as striker in the last 10 minutes. Holebas should have not retired. Tziolis and Tzavellas should be the ones retiring. It's time to give Fetfatzidis a call up. He is our best technical player we have got. Also Ninis. Also this team can do with a lot of technical and fast players. Players that come to mind are: Fetfatzidis, Ninis, Holebas, Kourbelis, Siopis, Gianniotas, Pelkas, Zeca, Donis, Stafylidis. If we have these players playing in the team, we will see a big difference. Most them are hardworking and talented with the ball. Bakasetas and Diamantakos have horrible first touches along with Tziolis, Tzavellas and Maniatis. They all need to be out. Fortounis and Mantalos are our best attacking midfielders currently but even they have trouble with their first touch sometimes. I believe if we had Manolas and Donis playing in the first game it would have not been 4-1. More like 2-2.

Yeah that is true but also Ninis and Fetfatzidis were from Panathinaikos and Olympiakos academies. They are our best technical players. Other technical players like Pelkas and Gianniotas are good aswell but Ninis and Fetfatzidis are the best we have technically.

If you remember just a small fact, that Skibbe first game in charge he played Holebas and Pelkas on the wings with Mitroglou and Karelis as the 2 strikers. The last time he played with 2 strikers was against Iceland in a friendly.

Although that's a decent line up. Retsos is not good at fullback. Id rather have two fullbacks that like to attack and pressure the opponents defence. This gives us the attacking edge. I would have 2 strikers upfront. Mitroglou and Karelis/Donis.

Karelis is not good on the wing. We all saw that against Estonia.

I agree. I think Ouzounidis is a coach that wants to develop young Greek players. Just like Chatzigiovannis. He is not there yet it he has some sort of talent that can be taken to the next step. I though Vlachodimos the winger was going to be a big player, but look how life turns out. Same can be said for Tatos, Ninis and Fetfatzidis.

Gianniotas is way better than Mantalos and Bakasetas on the wing come on. Bakasetas played a better game that's because he's played centrally. Donis no doubt has a spot on this team. He is/should be the starting Left Winger. Pelkas and Fortounis should interchange as Fortounis has not done enough to cement his spot.

I just want know what your problem is with Gianniotas. Every time he wears the blue and white Jersey he does more in one game, or should I say 20 minutes than any other player in attack. Yes plays in the second division of Spain. But who else do we have. At least he is playing and scoring some goals and assisting. He should definitely be in the squad, ateast on the bench. Vellios and Diamantakos are crap and don't cut it. I'm looking in this in a performance view. Not where they play in club football.

That is a good analysis pash. I don't see much of Charisis. I only saw him in highlights last season. Can anyone tell me why he has been playing on the wing? when clearly he hasn't got enough speed. Kitsiou looked decent in the last match he played against Hungary. That was 2015. Someone has to tell me if he has improved or declined since then. Pelkas is a player I have high hopes for. Technically very good, just like Ninis and Fetfatzidis but pash is probably right saying his passes need work. I also think his shooting/finishing need work. The likes of Mystakidis, Limnios, Lamprou and Manthatis have talent and can play on the wings. They need more game time to improve and progress. The thing is I hate it how we play players that turn 25-26 instead of playing them from 21-22. Old players need to leave ed and never come back. Torosidis and Karnezis are exceptions. I don't know if players like Bouchalakis and Lykogiannis are good enough at international level. It's worth trying to in friendlies. Pelkas looks like he is. Gianniotas aswell.

Androutsos and Limnios could be called up in the near future. Manthatis should follow aswell. They have potential to be really good. Barkas the keeper looks talented as well as the 24 year old Gianniotis.

All I want is Skibbe to leave. Tziolis out. Tzavellas out. Maniatis out. Gianniotas and Pelkas need to be in this team. Who else do we have? Lazaros didnt play well and Tachtsidis didnt show up like I expected him to. The defence is fine. The midfield needs a shake up.

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The thing that got me theost was that he didn't make subs. The right subs. Lazaros should have came on around the 50th. Tachtsidis was a good sub but that's because of Samaris. He made no other subs. Subbing Maniatis off for Retsos is a pure dumb move. The lack of game time for our players was why we lost. Tziolis and Tzavellas are getting old and Maniatis is on the decline. Samaris hasn't played well lately and has Stafylidis has barely played. It's really hard with a team like ours because we have no depth and played players that havent played for their clubs.

I agree we need to give it all we got.

I remember laz, I am hoping for a 3-0 victory at home. Tachtsidis needs to play alongside Zeca. I believe we can do it, we just need Manolas, Sokratis and Papadopoulos all on the same pitch.

Something like this: Karnezis Kpaps Mano Sokrati Toro Tachtsidis Zeca Stafylidis Fortounis Mitroglou. Pelkas/Lazaros Please God help us win 3-0.

Guys I have a feeling something is going to happen. With Torosidis and Manolas back in defence, we might have a chance making it to Russia. I don't want to say much more but if we bring all three of Sokratis, Manolas and Papadopoulos on the pitch and pick one of them to mark Mandzukic and Zeca to mark Modric we should bang in those goals. Tachtsidis, Pelkas and Lazaros must start with Torosidis and Stafylidis as the attacking wing backs. Mitroglou and Fortounis should be the strikers. With this I believe we can get the 3-0 at home.

Why wasn't Zeca on Modric the whole game? I remember when Zeca was marking Pjanic in the Bosnia game. The coach is crumbling in the worst of times.

I agree ausgreek. What has happened with Samaris? He is no where the player he was 2 years ago. Has he lost the passion for the sport?

We need a coach who agrees with us, if we don't get this there is no point of listing players of who's in and who's out.

He didnt play that well last season either. He scored like 8 goals the whole season. Compared to the season before where he scored 20.

Our depth is killing us. This is why Samaris and Fortounis are not playing well. Gianniotas should of came on in the 2nd half. His grit and speed was needed. It's a shame. I don't know how we will play on Sunday but I feel like we will give 1000%. We didn't look like our usual selves. Since the first minute something was wrong. We had no one in attack. How can Papadopoulos square a pass to Mitroglou in that angle? What did was the best thing he could do. Zeca makes me proud. He is not even Greek but showed so much heart and passion. I wish Fortounis showed the same urgency.

I agree with this I was thinking about that a few hours ago.

Sorry for the multiple posts.