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Empty stadium wtf... The sportsnet announcers just said they don't understand Skibbes thinking that they would sit your best player to take corners at set prices.. I agree with them..

FFS imagine how excited and nervous we would all be right now if we didn't gift them the 2 goals and we lost 2-1 or even if we gifted them 1 goal 2-0 would be very doable.. If we do somehow manage to get up 2 then I will start to get excited again but for now lets just see a good performance and see how it plays out.. It really does suck that we had to be the only team in the playoffs without a chance in our 2nd game.

Omg if he starts Tziolis again... that will ruin our flow completely WTF is he thinking?? Keep the above line up and switch Tziolis for Taxi

I predict we will be up 2-0 at half time. And we will give ourselves at the very least a chance...

Can you imagine we come out of the first half up 2-0... That would be nuts.. A guy can dream..

So as it stands right now Sweden/Italy 1-0 NI/Sws 0-1 and the game today with Den/Irl will end up 0-0 or someone winning 1-0. How a team allows 4 goals in and gets destroyed and doesn't even give themselves a chance is killing me right now I just don't get it.. Skank in all fairness everybody wanted Tziolis gone from day 1 as far as tzavellas there is not one person on earth that would pick him over Holebas which Skibbe did regularly. I mean Holebas is playing regularly and has been inform and we could have really used his speed and crosses.. Even when we were getting results the complaints have not stopped on his selections and subs that he would choose not to mention his call ups. I mean we're unable to score as a team and he kept one of the hottest scorers we had off the pitch except for the Gibraltar game.. We were down 4-1 and desperately need a goal to give ourselves a slim shot and what subs did he make to help us achieve that?

Exactly!!! The fact the we were down 4-1 and he didn't change his style is mind blowing...The minute I saw that line up I was literally speechless...

I'm with you bro and I think we all feel the same way but unfortunately I'm hearing more and more that Skibbe will play Tziolis with zeca and Bak on the wing and we are still going to play more of a defensive game which wont allow us to attack like we need to to get 3 goals. If Skibbe plays Tziolis and bak on the wing then he better have his suitcase packed because he's truly clueless.. We have nothing to lose go al out and press like crazy for an early goal DO NOT SIT BACK AND ATTACK ON THE COUNTER That wont work tomorrow when we need 3 goals.. We need to leave our D exposed so be it we need two goals in the first half..

We will not even have a shot in hell if Skibbe plays Tziolis at midfiled and Bak on the wing. Sibbe has given up on the win he is jut trying to save his ass and have a respectable outcome, he will not go all out for the win he will play a defence style an will be happy with a low scoring draw or 1-0 win.. He will not take the chance of getting blown out and he ill play defensive for sure.. You will see by his line up and formation tomorrow mark my words at this point he's only thinking of his job knowing another blowout and he has no chance at returning.. Plus I think the stadium will not be a packed house anymore...

Skibbe set to play 4-2-3-1 with Zeca and Tziolis in the midfield...

A part of me thinks the same thing but then I realize I'm thinking with my heart and not my head... The reality is we haven't scored more then 2 goals against anyone except Gibraltar, We couldn't even score more then 2 against Cyprus or Estonia, and we couldn't score more then 1 goal against Bosnia but now all of a sudden we think Greece will get 3 goals against a top 20 team in the world?? Croatia's defence is not great but it's better then everyone defence that was in our group excluding Belgium.. part of me starts to think maybe we can do it but the reality is this team is not able to as we win games 1-0 and 2-1... Skibbe really f....d our chances and he crumbled with the absence of Manolas and Toro and he completely got out coached...

That's why I continue to say Skibbe blow this game for us.. it's very obvious as his style and choices were Ridiculous...

So I just read that since greece needs to chase the game Skibbe is thinking of staring Karnezis toro Manolas socr tzav tziolis( this coach is F***ed) taxi fort laz baka mitro

Just finished watching the Swe/itly game I also watched the NI game, boys no team looked as pathetic as us and every team gave there selves a decent chance in there next game... As bad as we are and as bad as we've been to give up for goals against in the most important game in two years is hard to swallow and doesn't make sense... I know some of you don't want to hear this but majority of blame had to fall on Skibe and not doing enough homework to know Maniatis will get rapped in that position, Staf has played a total of 20 min in that position all year so to start him there didn't make sense, And Tziolis with his extreme slowness will not be able to fit in with a fast team.. All of these mistakes fall on Skibbe as the players were set up to fail the minute that line was announced.. You can say it's on the players all you want and of course some of it is but when you ask guys to play somewhere they're not comfortable or against a superior team you are shooting yourselves in the foot. This one goes to Skibbe for me..

This what we all have been saying from the beginning but for some reason only Skibbe doesn't see it that way.. Guys we are a team with limited talent we can AFFORD to pass on a player like Holebas it's crazy..

^All I wanted was for us to have a chance on Sunday and unfortunately we didn't give ourselves that opportunity.. yes its not impossible but after a loss like that I think the guys morale will be at an all time low..

What kind of messaging is Skibbe sending to his players?? If you're Lazaros are you not pissed off?? I mean what does it take for this guy to start you? he's been one of Aeks best players and has been producing but he still doesn't get picked and the only game he plays in is against Gibraltar.. The same thing happened with Holebas and yes he's a hot head and so on blah blah blah the fact is this couch was picking a worse player and gave him the starting job over Holebas so Holebas said f.. it.. This is sending a bad message to the team and the fact that you don't have to have regular playing time and you don't have to be an inform player to get chosen over better quality players.. Its really a bad trend Skibbe has started..

Yes its completely ruined my mood and I cant believe what happened... I still think even though we gifted them two goals Skibbe made a huge mistake with the line up he choose.. Even worse when we were down 3-1 the only change he made was brining Retsos in which should have started over maniatis in the first place.. how he does not bring in the starter for Aek that has played so well this year in Lazaros is mind blowing or even some speed in pelkas to try and get another goal.. His brilliant brain brought in Baka instead.. This lose is on the players but Skibbe needs to take some serious blame in this one but his comments after the game when asked by reporters if he made a mistake was "I don't think i made any mistakes today" are you serious buddy?? take responsibility for your actions you know you f.. up

Well unless some miracle happens on Sunday I'm almost 100% the Epo will get rid of Skibbe as his job was to get us to the World cup and anything less was considered a failure to the EPO and they stated that when they hired him... Lets wait and see what happens..

fair enough... A lot of anger and disappointment from yesterday results... Lets get a positive result on Sunday and then go from there...

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Even a Santos hater??? are serious or are you just speaking out of your ass bro?? I loved santos and was so pissed that he left so don't shoot your mouth off if you don't know what the f... you're talking about..

Skank losing so badly in a playoff game when everything was on the line is NOT a step forward its actually a step back... I understand the Euro campaign was horrible and this campaign was much better but I refuse to believe out team was as bad as we looked in the euro qualifiers. We lost our captain and some veterans after the world cup, we lost our coach we introduced newer players a different system and there was no leadership.. Don't kid yourself this is not a step forward as we were not as bad as we seemed just to many changes in such a short time.. Before it was all said and done we have gone through 4 coaches in less then two years.... As long as our mid consists of Samaris who just doesn't it cut it for me we will struggle.. as long as we don't use our younger faster winger we will struggle. lets see what happens Sunday and then we will see what decisions are made for the next campaign who ever our coach is. I will tell you even though I want skibbe gone if we do get a new coach it may be very difficult to even qualify for the euros as there will be another transition period of trying things out and a new system which may cost us some games to some weaker teams..

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Agree Skank.. For me its now over but if somehow we miraculously grab a 2-0 lead in the match only then will I have some hope again.