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Lmfao Estonia goal

For F*** sakes boys Hungary is beating Finland 2-0 if we scored 1 more goal we would have topped this group.. unreal..

I don’t think Poland would be in pot 1..

I just don’t know what a favourable draw would be??? I’m looking at the groups and I don’t see which 3 teams we could draw that would be favourable and give us a chance.. I think you’re right it’s more likely looking like 2022 ffs..

Koulouris out of this game now.. Hes been called by the under 21 so he will not participate today..

We won’t make it past group stage as we will have 3 very difficult teams... we will be the whipping boys of the group.. So truly sad...

Boys we are in pot 4 for the draw let that juts sink in for a second.. Look who’s is in pot 4 with us, San Marino, Gibraltar, Malta, Faroe Islands, Kosovo, Azebijian... OMG we are so F***ed... How can we possibly be so bad my god... Just imagine by looking at all 3 pots how bad of a draw we can get.... The problem is even if we play our asses of the goal differential will never be in favour of the Greek team because they never score enough goals.. I’m truly dreading the December 2nd draw becasue there’s a real possibility our chances will be over before the tournament even starts...?‍♂️?‍♂️?‍♂️

basically, but it also means Greece could draw 2 very difficult teams and a 3rd team that would give us a hard time like a Serbia , Romania, Republic of Ireland, Turkey and so on instead of 2 difficult teams and a Minnow like Moldova, San Marino and so on...

This is completely F...ED we have no shot at finishing the highest 2nd place team so we wont have a chance a the nations league playoffs regardless... We are also now guaranteed to be in pot 4 for the Euro draw which is unbelievable how low we have fallen... I cannot see us qualifying for the Euros now that we will be in pot 4.... Unreal... ffs we will miss another tournament...

I didn’t understand what he was trying to get at either.. but by his response it seems like he doesn’t care about what position players play... This through up a bit of a red flag to me after those comments..

Not too sure.....

No Mitro, Kourbelis, Siovis and Manolas for the match against Estonia..

Here is a breakdown of what needs to happen for Greece... http://www.agonasport.com/agonasport-allnews/lots-to-play-for-in-ethnikis-final-nations-league-match-against-estonia

I don't recall anyone saying "laz, Fetfa and Donis are the saviours" but simply I think people are fed up with playing the same guys with no results... And fyi you don't know if Donis and Fetfa wont workout because we haven't tried them together.. We no for sure that Pelkas and Mantalos are not the answer as they've played numerous games together and look at the results they have produced.. hopefully some younger guy that comes up can produce but until they do I think a good coach would try different guys if the current group are not producing.. Don t you?? But I always recall you saying that we wont be good unless we have a Renaldo or a Mbappe or Mesi… Sure having a superstar helps immensely but realistically in 2004 we beat Ronaldo, Nedved, Zidane, so as long as you have competent players with some skill that buy into a system you can actually be successful.. Korea beat Germany 2-0 in the world cup and I'm pretty sure Korea has no superstars.. Sweden got pretty far with NO superstars either...

During the press conference today a reporter asked the coach "there has been a lot of talk on why you choose to play with three 10's against Finland exactly what Skibbe did?" Coach is answer " I don't recognize players by their number whether they are a 10 or a 9 or a 6 and I don't choose players based on that"... That is a horrible way to coach in my opinion.... I hope he wasn't series... Obviously the question was directed towards Pelkas and Mantalos playing on the wing...

Where has Pelkas and Mantalos playing on the wing gotten us?? Absolutely no where... Why is it so hard for this team to play guys in their natural position where they are comfortable??? We need to change it up and I have hope that Ange will do that.. We can cry all we want but the truth in the matter is that we don’t have many options... I would rather lose with young guys that are up and coming then lose with Mantalos and Bakasetas ffs.. I truly hope this coach try’s a different format against Estonia.. Even tho we had a narrow 1-0 win witch wasn’t enough to give us a chance at first there a lot of positives so far and those positives are the end of Tziolis, Tzavellas, the addition of Koutris, Vlachodimos added.. I do believe he will add more guys coming up after the U21.. The negative was not calling up Laz and maybe Fetfa and playing Matanols and Pelkas on the wing.. The other negative was not playing a second striker.. I think we should be optimistic that we got the win and we have a new coach that immidiatley cut the garbage from this team.. I also think if Ang was our coach we would have topped this group.

12 points out of a possible 18 is NOT good when you have Hungary, Finland and Estonia in your group.. I guess your expectations are low.. At worst we should have had 15 points.. Look at these teams, having 2 loses in a group like this.. So by that logic then there is no way we should finish above 3rd place in the Euro campaign as the teams we play are going to be much more superior then the ones we had in the Nations League group. Lazoras is at least a natural winger and I would take him over Mantalos in a heartbeat... As I mentioned before I don't think our wingers will make a huge difference as long we have the midfielder we currently have.. We currently have midfielder that can't make proper passes but rather tend to send the ball back or short passes to Fourtounis in the middle, We have no one in the middle to send passes down the wing and open up the oppositions defence..

if We finish 2nd place with 12 points we still have a slim chance to qualify for the Nations league playoffs as long as one of the other 4 group winners qualify via the Euro campaign… Lets hope we don't draw 2 power houses for the qualifiers or we are screwed...

@Dean97 until we get a solid Midfielder to emerge that can control the middle of the field and feed the ball we will always sttruggle to create offensively... Zeca has heart and hustles but he is not the guy to do that and either is Kourbelis... I think Doinis will help when healthy on the wing.. I like Fetfa and think he has talent but he’s hardly getting any playing time so I don’t see him being called up anytime soon. Lazaros should be here 100% but his conditioning is horrible he gets gassed very easy... the only spots that should be secure is Manolas, Socratis, Fortounis,Mitro and Toro ( until he starts to get tired) Everyone else they need to experiment with... I would add Donis to the list but we haven’t seen enough yet...

I’m done with Mantalos he is garbage... Him and Bakasetas should not be on this team.. Pelkas has not been good either... We need Donis healthy because he would be our best option... I understand The coach wanted to get the win and see what he is working with and maybe more then going for the 2nd goal and exposing our back end maybe he thought the win would be a confidence booster going forward.. It’s the only reason why he wouldn’t push forward and go with 2 strikers imo... The fact that he cut Tzioils and Tzavellas and said he is going to bring some players from the under 21 needs to be encouraging to all of us.. Yes the style of the NT will NEVER be pretty and we will always struggle to score goals but I do have faith in this coach that he will eventually make the right moves.. The game against estonia now that the match doesn’t mean anything is a good time for him to experiment with his line up.. I thought Koutris looked good today...

He would of played some of those players if they weren’t in the U21 tournament right now.. He said it..

Guys we knew the Nations League was lost... Let’s not start blaming the coach after this game... the guy needs time to adjust and figure out which players he wants and which he doesn’t want.. I truly believe the coach will start implementing his style and new young players.. I’m still very optimistic with this new coach and will not judge him until after the Euro campaign.. I think we will start to slowly see changes..

It took an own goal for us to score...?‍♂️

Finland wins the group no matter what happens the next games now..

Watch out now boys here comes a goal Bakasetas is coming on... ???