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BVB cannot offer the prestige that clubs like Real, Barca, ManU, Bayern, etc can. They are one level below and thus will always be at the mercy of a handful of clubs who can pry away their talent. Dortmund is one of my favourite clubs, but it`s hard to deny that I would want to see Sokratis in a club like Real Madrid.

Some process is better than no progress.

Half German?

Skibbe should definitely give Mavropanos a call-up. If he can do it with Retsos at 19, a 20-year-old playing for Arsenal`s first team should be a no brainer. It`s important to adapt him into the NT culture even though it may be several years before he is a first choice CB for Greece.

Lazaros is half Greek? Is that stated anywhere official?

Defense was such a mess vs Croatia its hard to fault him, he was completely exposed. Skibbe spinelessly opting to start Maniatis over Retsos at RB was a massive error.

Not sure he had a better option. I don`t know Forest`s keeper situation though? Does he have any chance of taking number 1?

Amazing to see him score, but he will not have the club and fan confidence until he scores a more meaningful goal.

He is back playing abroad, joining his compatriots Vellios and Bouchalakis at Notthingham Forest F.C. in England`s EFL Championship.

He should have still been playing for the NT at least for this coming campaign. Very unfortunate that his career dropped off so prematurely.

I can see him getting loaned out next season, but he definitely has the potential to earn a spot at Arsenal in near future.

Promising youngster Vagelis Pavlidis has joined fellow Greek striker Anargyros Kampetsis at Borrusia Dortmund II on loan until June from VfL Bochum.

Giorgos Koutroubis signed with Belgian side Standard Liège on a 6 month contract with option for another year. http://standard.be/sites/default/files/styles/hauteur_560/public/2018-01/georgios_slider.jpg?itok=JmDXZzB9

Joined Arsenal in January 2018 from PAS Giannina for £1.89m. Arsene Wenger initially intended to send him out on loan, but his plans changed after seeing him in training. "The first signs he showed were so encouraging that I decided to keep him," he said.

Won PSAP's ''Best Greek Player Abroad'' award for 2017

I think it is more that he is at his prime age as a keeper and he is a #2 with starts few and far-between. Until he plays regularly at Watford or goes to a club where he is a #1, how much can one say about him?

It`s so easy top drop and really tough to climb back up. Greece is easily a top-30 team.

Just went to Stoke City on loan for the rest of the season.

You are right I would have probably preferred this in order to qualify. What Nations League gives us is more meaningful competitive games to look forward to, so I will take it.

Mods should really be updating the thread titles. I mean how hard can this be? There are so many out of date.

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Although 16 in 58 isn't eye popping, we need to take into consideration that he plays on a defense-first Greece team. If he was playing in front of a more skilled/attack minded midfield, he would have likely had double the goals.

Wolfsburg would be a great landing spot for Koutris. Kapino will get a deal abroad, but being dropped by Oly will hurt his market value. PAOK would be a good second half loan for Stafy, but he has the tools to play in a better league than Greece long-term.

Can't blame them for giving an opportunity to grow the game internationally. It is important on the grand scale.

So Interesting WC draw. Always painful looking at from the outside. A: Russia, Uruguay, Egypt, Saudi Arabia B: Portugal, Spain, Morocco, Iran C: France, Denmark, Peru, Australia D: Argentina, Croatia, Iceland, Nigeria E: Brazil, Switzerland, Serbia, Costa Rica F: Germany, Mexico, Sweden, Korea Republic G: Belgium, England, Panama, Tunisia H: Poland, Colombia, Senegal, Japan Groups are a bit more diluted compared to Euros, especially seeing some big guns miss out. Most groups are very open.