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I've said this from the beginning midfield in my opinion is the most important position as it dictates the flow of the game and creates the offence by creating space and feeding balls through and it can also slow down the pace of a game and until we have a very capable midfield duo we will not succeed. We have a very limited ceiling that we can reach. Personally think we have good enough wingers and hoping Douvikas can grow into a decent finisher. But in my opinion it all goes back to the midfield for us. its no surprise we starting losing games when Kara and company retired. We have been speaking about this for the last few years now and we still don't have an answer.

Well put Alphonse. I just want to add that we also had Ninis and Karagounis also creating for us and we did won most games in the past qualifiers. Now we have Bakasetas, Bouchalakis and Zeca as our midfielders. They aren’t national team level. We have decent wingers like Limnios, Tzolis and Masouras who can create and score but JVS put other players around them that they can’t work with. We have young strikers now in Pavlidis and Douvikas who are still developing and are promising. But they are not like Mitroglou, Charisteas and Gekas of the past… They need time. As for the midfield it needs a total revamp. I’m tired of seeing players like Bakasetas and Zeca not have a clue in playing forward passes and putting players onto goal. They are limited players. Galanopoulos showed glimpses of improving the midfield but still isn’t the answer. We need try something different like Alexandropoulos, Vasiliadis, Papanikolaou and even Ninis who still has what it takes to produce a good performance.

Greece can play attacking football and we saw that when JVS took over initially, we had a period of success from 03-10 which was quite defensive because we had world class defenders and that continued to 2014 cause we had players like Samaras, Salpigidis and Mitroglou that could create and score. We dont have these players anymore, we need to get on with it with the new guys we have, they are talented but really lack big game experience as we saw in the meltdown with Sweden away. JVS for what ever reason, decided to drop his play, when we played good football and we had to watch a horrible 5-3-2 which worked on couple of occasions, the first in the last 30 mins vs Sweden in Athens and the first 45 mins vs Sweden away from home. For the rest of it, it was just a fail. Reverting back to defensive schemes of Otto and Santos days wont bring the success we once had, we need a smart coach that can play to our abilities in all facets and, we hopefully find a good central midfield combo. Bajevic has not coached much recently... I wouldn't be looking at him

According to Sportime Greece technical director has been in Germany and he seems keen on hiring a German coach for the Ethniki. A name being proposed is Thorsten Fink he was in consideration for the PAO job before they hired Jovanovic. Any thoughts on him?

Zagorakis did not have the support because he was forced upon EPO by the New Democracy government acting on behalf of Evaggelos Marinakis who wanted to regain control of EPO from AEK. He was basically a puppet and when their trick did not work he resigned.