Karelis as a winger is a lie. The guy is considered very fast, but i dont remember him being able to easily surpass (talking about acceleration only , not shiny triples or running with the ball) any finnish or Faroe Island player. He is not a winger , or at least the PAO managed to ruin him and make him a striker that works well with another striker (aka berg). We dont have wingers , Fetfatzidis never tried training to power up his shot , many opportunities go wasted just coz he is bored to work. Karelis off position 2 seasons and Kaltsas is too early to consider him a decend winger. Thankfully Skibbe played both friendlies without wingers, hope the next friendlies show something similar. Id prefer either 2 more Midfielders in the likes of Maniatis, Petsos Kone or Pelkas. The whole fuss about Pelkas, I talked about this iin the PAOK forum and I think noone gave attention to me. I havent seen many assists/goals from him since like September. What happened ? I also see he gets benched a lot.