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^ will the league punish all transgressors equally? Nobody is trying to condone the violence... Quite the opposite. But to defeat it, you must first understand the root of all the unrest. If one team constantly gets slapped on the wrist, and the other gets the book slammed at it, it's only normal for a portion of the fanbase to lash out... (And let's for a moment pretend that this was not planned and anticipated by the apateona Savidi). What do you think of Gate 13 taking measures in its own hands and I.D.ing the firework culprits? Are they "Che-type revolutionaries"? Personally, I think they deserve to be there...

I have videos of outside stadium on leoforos Alexandra's that were taken at 6 pm where people were gathering at the local cafes, guys grilling souvlakia, and people peacefully trying to get into the stadium. Within 10 minutes, it turned from peace to Iraq with mat police chasing us and dropping bombs of tear gas next to children. How many f'ing times do I need to write this for it to get inside ur heads. THE FANS WERE NOT AT FAULT OUTSIDE THE STADIUM. THESE PIGS WERE THERE FOR WAR. ALL 4000 OF THEM. THE ATMOSPHERE INSIDE THE STADIUM FROM 6:30-8:15 WAS ABSOLUTELY AMAZING. LIKE ANY OTHER DERBY U HAVE EVER SEEN, (except for 2003 in rizoupoli, but hey why should we bring that up)

O Panathinaikos prepei na paei se eurosta ELLHNIKA xeria kai suntoma! GIANNAKOPULOI KAI PATERAS STEP UP AND SOON!

The thing about Lucas is he's playing for the team he loves and it shows. If you've even watched highlights of his appearances this year you can see it in his face that he's giving it his all for the jersey....when he played for us he was just happy to be out of the Ukraine, and he was half assedly, half heartedly playing for us plotting and dreaming about his return to his beloved team. That that's kind of passion I expected from players like Pelkas, Klaus, Konstandinidis and Kace....but it's just not the case. Lucas is a class above anyone on our squad right now, but even if we held on to him, he'd be playing half ass ball for us as well. The only reason he gave it his all in the preseason Europa qualifiers is because we basically told him to help us get through and he can go. To be honest, he can eat $hit and die as far as Im concerned, because rather than honoring his contract and showing gratitude to the team that got him out of that $hithole in the Ukraine, he basically just blackmailed us to let him go. For $1.5M Euros.....that he then criticized us for charging.

MAT are dogs they did the same things to AEK fans..... Giourkas I love the saying "they were scared to play us and took the 0-3 forfeit) hahahahahahaha F***en clueless bunch the lot of them The more things that come to light just shows how corrupt things really are and as I said yesterday its not only owners, its people in govt (Kontonis) and also people in the police...... BUT that's normal for Oly fans if this was Meli doing all this then they would be losing their sh*t....

One day after the bad result against Panaitolikos, the players and coaching staff got together for team dinner during which Klaus and Rodrigues were trolling Tudor after he called the players ballerina's following the game.

And they are the reason why things have become the way they become, and they are the reason why things will never change... Sheeeeeep

No matter what you say/witnessed, sophostires gavs have their opinions of how things went. Fits the narrative of the sweet innocent heroine dealing owner... Or that PAO was scared to play them off the park again.. Poor Gavs, I thought their players didn't understand the meaning of the derby for Greeks.. Wait, their reasoning is all over the map but don't mind that...

The fans didn't start s%$#! w the police. The police started all this w the fans. If they hadn't blocked off every entrance into the stadium, and didn't start blasting innocent people w tear gas for no reason, the violence outside wouldn't have happened. MAT police are ruthless thugs. I actually got the chills walking passed them. They were there to start s%$#! from the get go. ACAB 1312

http://m.thenational.ae/sport/football/saudi-prince-abandons-panathinaikos-football-club-buyout ^ Everyone read this and decide whether this was the right choice or not. Frankly, I'm not so satisfied with Alafouzos. He hasn't put a penny into our team

ante re g@mw to feleki sas

The only way things will change here is if we show the rest of the world the true corruption out here and in uefa. Violence won't do nothing, banning these kids won't do nothing cause marinaki can hire another 10 kids next week to do the same crap. With the power of us the people, social media and the Internet we can show the truth. We need to bring down marinaki, theodoridi and platini... We need to stop trying to win arguments w these morons on these sites and think of ways we can use our resources to bring justice against these organizations. Maybe start a new thread and so we can put our ideas together.

$1.8 Million/year up front in Berba-Klaus and we can't get a goal....That's probably twice what Panetolikos whole squad makes.

Dammit Pelkas! Nea Bafra, you're right, Rodrigues isn't looking good.

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