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I hope he plays! He's finished! His last game will be a loss to olympiakos! Great way to end your Career

It happened , we played 3-6-1 or 3-5-2 or 5-3-2 or whatever u wanna call it. But wanna know the bad thing ? Kyriakos in a period of 4 months , is unjured the 3 out of 4 , and it takes him 2 weeks to find form , before he gets injured again 2 weeks later. It's not nice changing a team's plan every month , based on how healthy Kyriakos is. Because when he is injured (and i will not be bored saying that that's a fcking lot) you either have 2 options: Either change the plan ,so the team literally never gets used to a plan and is not familiar with it , resulting in no cooperation and no proper communication , or put in siovas. Now , as an Olympiakos I like siovas. He can make some good balls to help offensively and is a bit smart, but when there are no wingerbacks his main goal is going to be stopping the enemy fast wingers. If im not wrong he plays as a LCB, at least thats where we saw him. Now Imagine him marking Mirallas. I can see a lot of stuff happening. As for the weather we have wingerbacks or nah. Torosidis and Cholevas never were clearly defenders. Torosidis when at Olympiakos , and at his prime , was a player who could cover the whole Right side , and still some of his crosses end up being good. The fact that we dont score from them , or that they never reach someone , isn't solely his fault. However, he is come of an age that he can't run , and having someone unable to defend properly OR attack properly (aka being average when asked to to do both) is gonna be bad. Id recommend using him as a Fullback , and putting one of our 10s more wide in the Right area. On hte other side, Cholebas still has some time to give good signs for the Ethniki , so id recommend putting him as a winger back. A possible 5-3-2 with my fullback details could be : Karnezis Torosidis - Manolas - Sokratis - Kyriakos Cholevas Taxtsidis Samaris Pelkas Fortounis Anyone who has feet

It sounds like you're just trying to argue that a 3-5-2 doesn't exist. Torosidis and Holebas looked pretty far forward to me. 4-2-2-2 is what Panathinaikos plays, is it not? He's probably trying to argue that we don't have wingers.

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The formations the NT has been using lately are terrible because many times we get caught out with balls in behind the defence, go back to a natural 4 defenders and change the middle and front line, we cant afford to have teams get behind us all the time and the teams we have played aren't exactly big teams, we play these kind of formations against a Germany, Spain or England they will slaughter us with pace on the counter. Build your foundation from the back after all in Euro 2004 it was our organised defence that got us the title and yes we may not have the talents of Dellas, Fyssas Seitaridis and Kasapis but the players we have at the back currently are more than capable of doing the same job as those guys did.

Not going to be able to watch the match, but I will be informed on my phone for scores. :)