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I agree the result is on Jovanovic, the 2nd half we played far too timid and sat far too deep. This team can play football, there is quality there. The 2-3 times we ventured up the pitch in the 2nd half we looked dangerous. With no Tzolis we had no outlet on the counter, no-one pacey breaking into space for us to hit on the break. That doesn't excuse the 2nd half but I guess it offers some explanation. I still have question marks over Jovanovic as plenty do, but if we criticise then we also have to praise him when he gets stuff right. Starting Ioannidis ends up being a master-stroke. He has collected 7 points from a possible 9 against Serbia, Germany and the Netherlands. He made some errors today for sure, tactically the 2nd half was poor. It was not the right move to sub off BOTH Ioannidis and Pavlidis together (I realise fatigue may have been a factor). Another error that he made IMO is leaving Kyziridis out of the matchday squad. When you only have 4 wingers for 2 positions you do not leave one of them out. He would have been invaluable coming off the bench in the 2nd half, his pace on the counter would have at the very least given the other boys an outlet to try hit when we won the ball back. This team is capable, more than capable. Androutsos was another big plus today, very impressive with a dogged display in midfield. It remains to be seen whether Jovanovic has the chops to take this team forward.

First tie breaker is head to head points scored against each other. That’s means if we win this game we are on to the next round!

When Holland got serious we really didn't match their level. This is something that the players have to mature and improve as they play more at their new clubs higher level. For me I'm so impressed at the way they came out started in front of the home fans. This was very positive.

Cyprus playing well but not getting results, try to get one here

FT 2-2. I would have taken the draw pre match but up 2 nil it sucks to give away those two points. Greece just have to learn how to not lose their focus same thing happened in Scotland but this is Holland their playing against a top tier football nation. Ioannidis great finish nice assist and great hold up play. It sucks for Tzolis and us that he got injured and so early on in the match. Hopefully he will be back soon.

4 yrs ago or so we were celebrating beating the likes of Kosovo 3-0 in pot C. Of course I am grateful and exciting, but the dark cloud of terrible coaching is something that worries me. Look at the Portugals and Belgiums of the world. Bad coaching can undermined even the best golden generations. I don’t want guys like Kostoulas to get discouraged

hopefully now Netherlands and Germany take some more points off each other and Serbia can upset one of them too.

Yep lolll. The people who defend this don’t understand our players or football as a whole. I hope I’m wrong but this Germany game will only further prove that. We won’t get lucky playing like that against them twice

GROUP A2 STANDINGS Greece-7 Netherlands-5 Germany-4 Serbia-0

Two completely different teams between the first and second half. This one hurts, especially after having a 2-0 lead. But if anyone had told us before the tournament that after the first round of playing every team once, we’d be sitting in first place in this group by 2 points, every single one of us would have taken it.

Other game in this group Germany 2-0 Serbia

Made the mistake of listening to that Hellas Footy podcast and had to turn it off when they decided collectively that we had to play like cowards (and the spastic-chipmunk-sounding-guy trash talking Thessaloniki didn't help, but I guess you can't expect miracles when a bunch of fans of Athens teams get together). Anyway. Bitterly disappointing here. We can hold our own against any f***ing team, which the first 60 or so minutes showed us today. When we revert to scared tactics, we get our assholes torn open. Big frigging shock.

The full 3 points was almost too good to be true. Slightly disappointing of course but we are sitting in a great position by not losing to them. For me this is about securing Pot 1 and raising rank.

Greece 2-2 Netherlands FT Sucks to blow the lead, but still not a bad result. This has been a great international break

Zechiel, save Tzolakis!

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Upsetting

Damn

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Final Greek substitution: Michailidis IN Karetsas OUT All changes have been made

Greece: Douvikas IN Androutsos OUT

Final Dutch substitution: Zechiel IN Timber OUT

This will be a long 20 min unless we score.

Dutch Score again but offside.. We are so lucky.

What did I say: this plan only works when we have an unprecedented defensive performance