georgelaz

yeah thinking of ordering it and just watching with my dad and maybe inviting friends over. I actually want to watch the game though, it often ends up becoming social hour and hard to actually hear commentary and s%$#!. If anything might do frappes though as that's where I usually go.

anyone got streams (ideally with greek commentary)? anyone in toronto going out to watch the game? (If so where at?)

Mitro Staf Fortounis Laz Tachtsi Zeca Tzav Sokratis Kpaps Retsos Karnezis (Ideal line up given the circumstances for me.)

I can't imagine sokratis being out. he's built like a truck and usually quickly recovers from knocks. Siovas should have been selected though. Dude has NT experience and was playing in our playoff win vs Romania. With Sokratis and Kpaps at the back we should be okay.

It's 33% for Greece to win the whole shebang no? I think that's fair odds. 66% chance for a draw first game. If we can get a draw in Croatia I think it shifts to us being favourites. Especially when we get Manolas back. That's the equivalent of them missing Rakitic.

Karelis is far more than just his pace. That's not even his main selling points. IMO it's his positioning and shooting. Klaus should have been in the NT when he was actually in peak form though. But we also had Samaras and Gekas at the time so not a huge loss.

I don't think Kone will be able to overtake Mitroglou or Karelis. But he's a great 3rd option for cf which we lack. Hopefully he picks up form at AEK. Who's playing great this season. realistic best lineup that skibbe can use Mitroglou Staf Fortounis Laz Tachtsi Zeca Tzav Manolas Sokratis Torosidis Karnezis is anyone from the above injured? Tachtsi and Fortounis both started in the 0-0 vs. Barca... and that's exactly what we need in Crotia 0-0 or better.

Mitroglou Fetfa Fortounis Donis Tachtsi Zeca would be nice up top. Whatever, Staf up top and Tzav in the back is basically as good. we'll see what kone can do at AEK. if he can get form he'll be useful but it will tough for him cause he's a quasi cf/cam. Fortounis and Karelis are both younger and better than him at the moment. Kone circa 2014 though was BEAST.

yeah good point, tachtsi always seems solid for NT. Assist vs. belgium. Demolishing hungary...

I personally think Tzavellas is solid. I'd rather have him as bench with Holebas in there but he'd be like my 2nd or 3rd choice. Also I think it's a bit too late now to start shifting the team unless there's a no brainer.

I don't know dude. they had fesja from before so if anything it was Samaris who was supposed to overtake him and he did for a few seasons till fesja grew his favour back again. Let's not forget that Samaris also was a champions league man of the week for a very competitive Benfica team a year and half ago as well. Not saying that Samaris is a MUST start but he's definitely one of our better options and better to have than Tziolis. Having Zeca and Tachtsidis over him is a reasonable argument though.

the only reason Samaris isn't playing for Benfica is because fesja is playing so well. Samaris was a key player before Fesja came onto the scene.

please baby jesus for once, no injuries

Siovas is so god damn slow though. Tziolis like speeds. I'd rather Retsos nowdayz if our big 3 are not available. Siovas's skill moves doe.. lol

i'm saying a free roamer. most of the time acting like a shield to the defensive line, up top and coming up for headers on set pieces. not suggesting he play maestro LOL.

second match at home might be huge for us. Greece doesn't have too much trouble stifling a team for a whole game.

stafs primary position is LB but he can also do LM as a secondary position. I think we might go with something like this Mitro Staf Fortouni Laz/Zeca Kpaps Zeca/Samaris Tzav Sokratis Manolas Toro Karnezis my prediction is 1-1 game 1 and 0-0 game 2 to see us through...

no way. Italy has just as good of defense as us if not better, plus they actually have a midfield. if they were only able to get Icardi as a striker they would be world cup contenders. they've had a hole in striker position for a long time now besides Balotelli's flash in the pan. Croatia has a weak D and great attacking force. These kind of teams are our specialty. Probably the best draw besides Denmark. Still will be very tough. Way harder than Ukraine and Romania. I could even see this going into extra time.

croatia is tough. and their group was really hard. yeah they had no superpower but iceland ukraine and turkey are all tough teams for just 1 group.

ooof tough draw. some good memories.

hopefully it was denmark. I think we were lucky the two playoffs we went through cuz we were high ranking and therefore seeded for most tournys past decade until our botched euro 2016 campaign. ukraine and romania are significantly easier to beat than switzerland, italy, or croatia. denmark is about same level, so let's hope we get them.

I do have a feeling we're gunna get Denmark. Greece is probably the best unseeded team, so if fifa does pull of shaninigans they'll want us to face the Danes so we don't threaten the other seeded teams.

he might have not known as it's pretty redicolous that you can't wear a pao shirt at an NT game. This is when we put club ties aside and maybe it was his only jersey. Remember the greek leagues emblem is also the same as the national teams.

greece vs. italy playoff games would be wild but I'd rather any of the other teams. remember this is playoffs. so we HAVE to win at least one of the games. they have a solid defense and our offense is not sharp. they're very similar to us but just a higher level.