georgelaz

mitroglou is a product of German academies. Donis is a product of Italian academies. the only thing greek academies have been able to produce is CB's. we have the talent but not the academies.

karelis as ss behind mitro would be cool or him n the left mitro on the right

euro 2020 lineup should be Mitro Fetfa Fortounis Donis Tachtsi Zeca Staf Manolas Sokratis Retsos Karnezis 1. fetfa is still only gunna be 27 and his contract with the arabs will be done and hopefully he can go play in europe 2. fortounis is our best CAM, I don't agree with the flak he's been getting and he's only 24. Mantalos is also quite good in this position if anything slot Fortounis to left were he can play good and Mantalos as CAM cuz mantalos sucks on the wing. Reminds me when people gave up on Mitro... this might be even worse. Let's not forget the kid almost single handedly decimated arsenal a year or two ago. 3. Retsos as RB will be solid and Donis up to will more than make up for his lack of attacking ability. So it's almost like we have 3 atb + a wing back in Staf. Toro will likely want to get 100 caps and if he's still good enough (right now I say he is all for it) good thing for skibbe is he benched tzav for once but Tziolis has gotta go man or at least just reserves.

our low ranking is a piece of why it's been harder to qualify. post euro 2004 we were often pot 1. success builds upon success. it's harder t dig out of a hole so this campaign has been good from a digging out of a hole point of view...

we did have a midfield at one point. that was circa 2003-2005 zagorakis at bologna karagounis at inter katsouranis at benfica stelios at bolton (when they were a premier league regular) basinas at pao tsiartsas at athletico thats 6 high quality midfielders right there and they were always starting for their club. now we have players that aren't even starting for club Gianniotas = second division spain Fortounis = sometimes doesn't even start for oly Samaris = doesn't really start for Benfica anymore (was in top form 2 years ago getting a champions league MOM) Zeca = played out of position but otherwise solid. Staf = he's not a midfielder. Tziolis = plays in saudi arabia Tachtsi = isn't playing regular balla at oly still. Night and day difference. If our players actually get playing time at decent clubs we have a future though. 2nd place and a loss in the playoffs wasn't terrible. There's always a silver lining. Remember we didn't qualify for the world cup before the we won the euro either. We were very close to qualifying this time. Skibbe makes mistakes but if we don't get plagued with injuries I think we can even go through with him as when our players are in form and have few injuries he got results. He just sucks when it comes to improvisation when players are missing and he makes excuses rather than get creative.

the boo's were shameful from our fans... I think it was a bit of a tit for tat because the croats did it in zagreb but still... I expect better from us greeks.

manolas and torosidis are a class above our other options, that's for sure.

fifa truly screwed us with manolas ban. bakasetas sucks he's slow and doesn't make up for his pace with anything. although pelkas skied it he offers way more for us.

Samaris is same height as Tziolis and Tachtsidis is 2 inches taller... Tziolis in as a height thing is redicolous lol.

skibbe falls to the consistency bias way too often. he needs a baby revolution for us to have a chance to win this game. but he's not gunna do that.

wouldve made our lives easier if cracked a second away goal we had 4+ chances to do so croatia's defense looks shakey and we've seen greece somehow manage to play offensive football when their backs against the wall eg) vs. Ivory Coast / Costa Rica Mitroglou 20 Mitroglou 40 Laz 70 pame lol

so obvious. Zeca on the wing is wasted. he should have man marked modric and taken him out the game. Zeca is wasted on the wings. He's not creative nor a goal scorer. He's an engine and can man mark like a dog on meat.

our best possible lineup is imo 1 5-1-3-1 Mitro Fetfa/Laz Fort/Mant Donis Zeca Holebas Torosidis Sokratis Kpaps Manolas Karnezis from that lineup we're missing 4 of the 11. With a nation as top heavy as us you can't afford to be leaving out 35% of the best players. i think we can play balla if we field the RIGHT players. skibbe had a defeatist attitude going into zagreb. remember how our midfield hummed for the first time ever when we fielded pelka/mantalos/kone/fortounis/tachtsi?

If we can score and only goal it will build belief and we can start throwing everything at them. They're defense sucks. Donis, Holebas, Laz, Karelis being abscent really hurt us. Only Mitro and Fortounis were our true attacking players and their defense was so shaky. Should've capitalized on that.

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ella, impossible is nothing.

Putting up Maniatis vs. Perisic was the biggest mistake. If anything should have put Retsos as RB which have nullified attack on the wings but at least have a chance to shut that side down. Torosidis being out was a huge loss in the battle to keep Perisic under control. Tzav doesn't bother me but that should've been Holebas's spot. I wish we just kept Santos and we would've had Holebas starting and Santos at least understands Greek football coaching in the league for years. Though we can't take it away. This was a solid campaign besides a 30 minute hickup that made us likely lose it all.

honestly did not expect this bad of a performance thoughh. it is shocking copping 4. We only ever copped 2 from belgium in one game. everything else was 1 or 0. manolas out was a huge loss. I do think his presence would have prevented a goal or two.

we lost the psychological battle by conceding early. The Croats wanted open balla and they got it. We obviously were playing to shut the game down - which we are usually successful at doing. they were hammering that flank that Maniatis was defending. They knew he was the weakest link. A Torosidis and Manolas I assure u none of that would have happened.

it's alright. come back of the year baby. 3-0 hellas next game pame!

we actually had plenty of chances too. Mitroglou 3 shots on target and saved and 2 more near missed we were unlucky with finishing and made too many mistakes defending. 2 of the goals were attempted back passes to Karnezis. Should have gone for a safe clearance rather than pass back to the goalie. Way too risky.

We needed a flawless performances today and too many things went wrong. 1. Torosidis out (Having to play Maniatis) 2. Manolas out 3. Donis out 4. Zeca defanged with a yellow 5. Zeca with a clean tackle that could've led to a breakaway called foul. 6. Not starting Laz 7. Starting Tziolis. Should've been Laz on the wing, Zeca in Tziolis's place who was invisible.

always good to wheel the mounares on danforth though at half time lol