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Just play the Greek cup behind closed doors, In Larnaca, Belmore Oval, Wanderland, or at the Vatican. Just play the thing.

So are the low lives throwing flares and causing constant problems, cause they are poor or crims.

I really hope Skibbe brings to these shores Vellios, Karelis, Fortounis, Mantalos, Pelkas, Vellidis, Oikonomou (the other Oikon), Kaltsas and Petsos, along with Mitro, Oresti, Stathi, Manolas, Toro, Holebas, Samaris, Taxi, Tzavellas, Stafylidis and Siovas No-one over 30 except Holebas.

Look, players should keep aspiring to play in the EPL, Serie A, Bunders and La Liga. If they are not contributing at that level, they may as well be in A League. No major advantage being in Serie b, Championship, Evedivisie or even Swiss. In the earlier days, not that long ago, it was imperative for players to go overseas cause there was nothing good enough here. Now, there is credibility here. Tough getting in those top 4 leagues. Sometimes you count your losses and play in the A League. Works wonders for Mooy. This kid Ikon you guys are talking about has been overseas for ages.

Hey man, I believe A League is just below Dutch league, it has shown a lot of quality.

Oh and Cahill is an old fart, cant score in a brothel. Mitro will put it all over him. Not long now.

Cmon man, not trying. Lets call a result what it is. Hellas won't have to worry anyway.We are better man 4 man.

If I mean When Greece defeat Socceroos, we will say we are better. If Socceroos win, we will say Greece were Not trying. You can only beat whats in front of you I guess. I say whoever wins, is the better side. No Excuses!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Let me add !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Right then, now for two easy matches vs Socceroos coming up next. Mitro to get a few goals.

Players don't always stay on the scene for the four year cycle till the next World Cup-we must get there. Giorgi may have a solid 2 years from now Sherriff.

It seems that coaches have been preferring more imposing or physical looking guys like Fortounis for AM position. This must be why Ninis,Fetfa, Mantalos and young Pelkas don't get a go there. Rightly or wrongly mind you. Samaras comes into the equation in this case.

Nasl's ceo says his comp is the equal, if not better than MLS. That would have it at Serie B, Everdivisie Chinese league standard then. IF Giorgis shows consistency again, he could play as second striker/AM role for Hellas. He does see himself as an out & out stricker anyway as he has said so years ago. Fortounis can go further back and have more room too. Fact that we cannot get around is, we had a wealth of experience in the last world cup, which was successful.

Theofanis Gekas was probably shorter, he went awfully well. Karelis should be tried at CF.

In going fwd incoming would be Petsos, Mantalos,Pelkas and Lazaros. Outgoings Tziolis, Taxi, Maniatis. Playing Karelis as CF or bench, and Fortounis deeper lying. Picking with these changes in mind would be the closest to our best side.

Just looking at the pros and cons, is Maniati available and match fit? If Skibbe really needs an experienced hand to hold Samari's hand deep lying, then why not pick Gianni, as he has a high tempo game. Tzioli isn't high tempo and his passing game I'm lead to believe is no better than Maniatis. Like to see Petso's game develop at this level more so.

Just picking Pana's brain. I know. What's with no actual wingers with this squad? Karelis on the left again. Mantalo or Vellios or say Pelkas-Iceland, on the right i suppose, I don't know.

So with Fortounis at AM, do you move Mantalos to RW, and sit Bakasetas on the bench then Panan97?

Every country goes through re-building ofcourse. Some hardly struggle, others take a while to get back to it. The young guys in Hellas would aspire to succeed due to the poverty I would imagine, like South American youngsters do. I hope they know their futures aren't at coffee shops chasing skirt, cause skirt won't go with dreamers, only with guys aspiring and seen to be going forward.

Yeah, I'm glad they are still kept as blue and white. That still remains. The kit could of had the Acropolis in the middle say.

Against Hungary in the dead rubber.

Losing Karagounis, who even started off the bench multiple times near the end, must have had a huge influence as a player. As soon as he went, the Ethniki Collapsed into a re-building phase, lets say. Coinsidence? Anyway, it would of served Greece well if Santos phased in generation next, on multiple occasions, leading up to World Cup 2014. I know this has been mentioned a lot. It has taken this long to get some sort of good teamwork on the pitch, resulting in a win and a draw in hostile conditions recently. The re-building may not be over yet. Greece deserves to be fighting in the Euros! The attitudes of many of the players don't deserve to, and they are not. The successful Santos age didn't invest near enough for this failed Euro campaign. I won't rest on the idea that we just didn't have the talent this time 'round.

Ranieri did this year what Van Gaal and Pelegrini couldn't. Wow,what a supercoach. It showed Hellas's players just refused to pitch in.

Second stricker, speed and skill with some height and can play right wing and cf.

To keep picking Tzioli, Skibbe has not got enough trust in Tachtsidis and Samaris as vision-passing type players, to play together as dm's. They would play as one at dm, while the other is at cm. They won't both be dm. Skibbe wants more experience in that zone, and he views Tzioli, unfortunately as one of these, although his passing game is not great quality. At least Petsos is still 22 years old, as is prospective Kourbelis, who must be picked in the squad, and trusted to do what he knows.

Looks as though Marios Oikonomou, Thanasi Papazoglou, Apostolos Vellios and Dimitrios Diamantakos are in the squad. So is Alexandros Tziolis.