Dean97

Donis is our best player. Retsos needs to get involved more but he is doing fine. Vellios needs to come off and so does Tziolis.

Why are we playing so safe? This is already frustrating.

Samaris will start. Donis will be on the wing and Vellios will start.

I would of played Samaris or Tachtsidis in the world cup instead of Katsouranis. Everyone would agree on that. Karagounis was a big loss, Katsouranis wasn't. You know it, I know it, everyone knows it. We were all hoping that Katsouranis wouldn't play against Costa Rica. Yes he was good up and till 2008. Then he started being what Tziolis is now. We had a good team in Euro 2016 qualifiers it just nothing was working and we weren't playing as a team. Now it is a different story.

Fetfatzidis without a doubt should be in the squad. If we all agree on this then it's obvious to the majority of people around the world I don't know what Skibbe problem is with him. Maybe he sees Bakasetas and Diamantakos as the future of the team. Pelkas should of been called up he has played more games than Gianniotas. Gianniotas is a good player. The reason why we think players like Tziolis, Bakasetas and Diamantakos are not good enough is because they are not good enough.

This could be the line up against Estonia: Karnezis Stafylidis. Retsos. Manolas. Tzavellas Bouchalakis Samaris Gianniotas. Bakasetas. Lykogiannis Diamantakos Subs: Mantalos, Fortounis, Papadopoulos This gives Bouchalakis senior experience. Bakasetas and Diamantakos showing if their worth to be in the team. Lykogiannis can play LW and defend with Tzavellas on the left flank. Donis and Zeca might play in this match and also Tachtsidis. The match against Belgium is 3 days later!

http://www.agonasport.com/agonasport-allnews/the-road-to-russia-comes-to-intersection

I'd rather have Donis on the wing. He might do well as striker who knows. Bakasetas should be tried up front. If I choose between Vellios and Diamantakos it would be Vellios. Torosidis and Kourbelis are ruled out for the two matches. So we have Torosidis and Sokratis out. I'd expect either Papadopoulos or Samaris to be captain or maybe Karnezis. The question is who will start at right back? It should be between Retsos and Stafylidis.

Not only that Argy they are very good at passing. Better than Maniatis, Tziolis and Katsouranis. There passes are very crisp and strong. What I mean is that the ball travels to their teammates with a fast pace. Also Tachtsidis vision is very good and is needed in this midfield.

Samaris and Tachtsidis are no doubt our best midfielders, whether they are playing or not they should be starting for the national team. Vellios might be talented but is not that good to be in the team.

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1636361576374057&id=1828424750 Bouchalakis got called up which is good to see. Again Bakasetas and Diamantakos got called up. Tziolis getting called up is a joke. I can't understand why talented players like Pelkas, Galanopoulos and Androutsos don't get called up. Limnios is another but he needs to prove himself more. Skibbe has called up 27 players which makes no sense. Lykogiannis will not play, Diamantakos and Bakasetas don't deserve to be called up. Tziolis getting called up is unbelievable. Why don't we just call up Andreas Tatos or better yet Fetfatzidis.

I don't think Samaris will leave and go to the EPL. I hope I'm wrong and does but I don't see it happening maybe on the last day of the transfer window. I'm just sick of expecting players to join better teams and it doesn't happen.

There is no excuse for PAOK to draw this match. I believe PAOK have a much more stronger team this season with Mak, Prijovic and Henrique. Shakhov looks like he is Improving and you have got Djalma and Biseswar. Matos looks very good and the keeper is decent. Limnios has a lot of potential. Klaus should leave. Also you have Kace and Cimirot. This team looks strong but Olympiakos has a better team. Still PAOK should beat team like this it's unacceptable. I believe PAOK and Olympiakos will battle it out for the championship with Olympiakos winning it.

Is Tachtsidis injured? Will he be fine for this match?

They are good enough players anyway. It's not like they haven't been training.

You do have a point red sheriff, but you make it out to be that they don't know how to play football. You say it like they are ametuers playing in a local league. Samaris, Tachtsidis and Mitroglou need game time in order to be sharp for this match. What's embarrassing is calling players up like Maniatis and Tziolis instead of Siopis or Kourbelis.

Tachtsidis is injured still. Mantalos should sit out for this one. Gianniotas is a true winger and has a lot of energy. He also has better touches than Mantalos. Retsos starting or not needs to be capped.

Karnezis Retsos Manolas Kyriakos Stafylidis Samaris Zeca Gianniotas Fortounis. Donis Mitroglou Sub: Mantalos, Kourbelis, Karelis The reason why we should use this line up is because it gives a chance to cap Retsos as he is wanted by South Africa. Also to give Torosidis a rest. Papadopoulos comes in for the suspended Sokratis. Samaris and Zeca combo will be used so they can start understanding each other. Gianniotas in place for Mantalos. Donis should get the start. I was going to put Karelis upfront but we need to win this match so Mitroglou starts.

I just saw the highlights of the Forest Vs Barnsley highlights where forest lost 2-1. Bouchalakis has a better pass than Tziolis. The problem is that he was slow in getting back to help the defence and that's what we need and that's what Maniatis does well at. He also needs to put a tackle in when gets back and not just let the defence take care of it. That's what I saw.

Diamantakos came on the last 15 minutes in that match. You are right about Bouchalakis, he didnt play much with Olympiakos but when he did he was effective. His injuries held him back. If he wasn't injury prone like Papadopoulos he would be in the Greek team. Without a doubt. He has more quality then Maniatis and is way better than Tziolis. He is slow though. That's his downfall, aswell as injuries. His positives are his passing, shooting and willingness to fight for the ball.

I hope he will be fine for the Estonia match otherwise we'll have to play either Vellios or Diamantakos. Id prefer to play Donis upfront.

It's not just from one match. I've been saying he is a good player for a long time. Diamantakos wasn't chosen because he played well against Manchester City. Let's see how Bouchalakis does in the next few matches.

I remember a player called Fotakis. Ex PAOK player. He was known for his long range shooting. Tziolis was not bad back in the day in this regard.

I don't know I was hoping for Samaris to score more goals like that but he hasn't. He needs to play CM to score he is good at scoring just inside the box. Bouchalakis can score from anywhere, only when he has the chance too. I just don't know why we don't shoot enough around the box. Most of our goals are inside the box with free kick here and there. I'm telling you Bouchalakis can score goals thats his biggest strength and he is a midfielder.

Bouchalakis can strike a ball better than any of our midfielders. Then it's Fortounis. Samaris can't get in good shooting positions, Tachtsidis Is a bit clumsy. Bouchalakis can provide a threat with his shots. We haven't had someone in our midfield that can strike like that in a long time. The last person that could was Karagounis.