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I see, it's a response to the Aris fans who refuse to admit it. Funny you bring up second and third division somewhere the team you support should have been demoted to before the government interfered. I'm sorry, I forgot PAOK were set up, my bad. Aris have plenty of issues to deal with but don't come here acting like an arrogant prick when your team have become just as corrupt as OSFP. You know what they say about those who live in glass houses.

I have no idea what your response has to do with what I posted.

My goal? I don't have a goal, I posted something in a forum of Aris fans which is the team I support as well and you came in here acting like an a**hole. I should ask you that question. And since you asked, yes I believe PAOK are corrupt just like the whole league is. Savvidis figured out when in Rome.... I don't have an issue with it since he only did what is the norm but don't come here pretending PAOK play by the rules and others don't. Beos is your ally for crying out loud. So the team you support isn't as corrupt as OSFP, does it really matter? Fine OSFP are more corrupt, you happy now?

Here is a recent article where JVS is talking about player selections and who wasn't called up for the friendlies in the US before it got cancelled. I think by this article we can honestly say Socratis, Manolas and Mitro are all done from the NT. You can see where he was asked about Socraits and Manolos and he responded "we want players that will give 100% to the team" That statement shows that these two were a big problem for the NT and he wants to move forward with new young talent and not moving backwards, https://www.agonasport.com/agonasport-allnews/van-t-schip-we-will-choose-players-who-fight-for-the-national-team

You are going around in circles and I have no idea how to respond to you. The difference between the two of us is that I don’t allow my team allegiance to cloud my judgement, at least not all the time. I’m not going to deny the obvious to avoid ridicule by others. Whatever you think is going on between Aris and OSFP my thoughts on said subject I promise you are 10 times worse. I would love it if Aris had a powerful and influential owner that can win us some titles with moves and deals outside the pitch because that’s how things work in the SL.

You are missing the point. I never said Savvidis is an angel. I said that you cannot compare PAOK to Olympiakos with regards to corruption and damage that has been to Greek football. In fact we could even compare the two owners. One aquires assets in Greece, pays what is due and gives people jobs. The other doesn't even have Greek flags on his boats. Speaking of boats there is also the case of Noor1 where everybody knows who is responsible. Mate, I think it is raining in Sydney on Thursday so be sure to stay inside. Paper rips easily when wet.

Pretty rich Athens4 considering your team is not far from relegation. You guys live on double standards

Μα αφού ο ΑΡΗΣ δεν πήρε ποτέ δανεικό απο τον Ολυμπιακό. Τι είναι αυτα που διαβάζουμε; Άντε τώρα στη Β (μη πω Γ) Εθνική για να στρώσετε επιτέλους. Λυπάμαι μόνο τους υγιείς φιλάθλους αυτής της ομάδας.

I have made my feelings clear about the relationship between the two, I'll leave it at that as I do not want to keep upsetting my friends. I have not read anything about a new stadium.