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Yes I agree, let's JUST make the playoffs and then we will navigate from there. Croatia have a talented squad but I watched them today vs Finland and they looked as bad as we did vs Estonia. They were lucky to get there goal on a breakdown. Finland had a chance in stoppage time to win it. Even Italy at home could only manage a draw with the Skops and they have looked like a mediocre side the last 3 matches. I like our chances with almost anyone except if France falls into play.

^ I get what you are saying but I'd rather focus on getting In first and then worry about who play in the playoffs.. we showed what we can do against big teams the way we played against Belgium so let's just find a way to sneak in and hope everything falls into place then we will worry about the playoff match..

Biggest favorite to be last 2nd placed team in Las Vegas Betting is Slovakia ending up with 12 points. They have 0 to none expectation of Scotland winning in Slovenia. Croatia somwhow drew Finland at home and so Ukraine gets in the game of finishing 2nd if they beat croatia in the upcomming Ukraine-Croatia matchday. Meanwhile Iceland play Kosovo at home so it looks like they ve secured 1st spot. Croatia currently in the 2nd teams ranking has 11 points which means that if they win next matchday they gather 14 and surpass us but if they don't and they draw they end up with 12 points and we re through. If Ukraine wins they end up 2nd with 14 points and surpass us. So. If Scotland Lose Greece goes in the play offs If Croatia draw greece goes to the playoffs If Ireland wins wales narrowly by 1-2 goals Greece goes to the play offs If Ireland Wales draw Greece go to the play off 3 Scenarios left in our favor. I give a 30% chance for Slovakia to be the last placed team. 15% to Croatia 40% to Ireland/Wales 15% to Greece/Bosnia All this if Greece beats Cyprus tomorrow and Bosnia draw or lose to Belgium. 40% for Ireland Wales because we re talking about 1 match in which 2 results (Diplo h X) get us through (i dont expect Ireland to win Wales 5-0 at Wales so their GD is favoring us. 2 out of 3 results in that match and we re through. I give a 30% to slovakia as again, 2 results in the same match (Scotland drawing or losing away at Slovenia) gets us through since Slovakia will surpass them in points. 15% to Croatia because I believe they have the players to scrap a win over Ukraine. Even if that does not happen I believe Ukraine will step up and win them at home, so fewer chances for them to be last. Only one results gets us higher than them (the draw) and I believe Ukraine will open up to claim the win(they need the win to progress as 2nd) and they might concede on the counter. Not a match where you expect it to end as a draw. 15% to Greece/Bosnia. If it were Bosnia the 2nd Id give more chances. I expect them to have 12 points in the 2nd placed ranking with draw against Belgium and Win against Estonia but Greece goes up 2nd with a win over Cyprus. Greece with 13 points and a GD > +3 has sorta secured a play off spot. Everything is played tomorrow. Our qualification is played tomorrow. Gibraltar at home is just a celebration friendly. Το κερασάκι στην τούρτα. We can and we will make it.

would be great if they had dropped points but still the wales-ireland is the key game. also at the moment i find it more likely for scotland not to beat slovenia on the road than wales drawing ireland. i think we have more chances going onto that game. we'll have to see if croatia's group will be on the mix after this matchday too.

Bro I dont get you. If we can stand in a World Cup or not is a different thing to weather Bosnia deserves a place in the play offs more than us. Both teams will be the weakest in the play offs if they make it. But get real. They outplayed us in Athens but that's just it. Zenica we had the only clear chance tet-a-tet to the Goalie. Even in Athens considering the way they scored, despite having a ton better chances than us, Goal Post - Karnezis Back - In , it doesnt really scream domination. Luckily or not the draw was what it was. Considering the 2 contenders for 2nd spot I see no reason why we should not have it instead of them and vise versa.

Same as @J1078 I completely disagree. We did go far better than expected and that's why I don't understand why the hate against Skibbe. He took a pile of trash and made it a group with Good Atmosphere and good results. However, after the matches have been played I fail to consider Bosnia doing as good as we did. First things first, Bosnia got in the Group and on the marathon for the World Cup with a much differend Psychology. Their previous campaign was not the disaster ours was. They made it to the play offs for the Euro. We finished 6th with 6 points in 10 games. The fact that they ve been struggling till now and there is a chance that they miss the play offs from us is in my opinion a far bigger failure for their National Team than it's gonna be if WE miss the 2nd spot. Moreover. I did not see Bosnia outplay us twice. I saw them outplay us once in Athens. The match in Bosnia seemed pretty balanced to me with both teams sparing a few good chances. We conceded 3 goals in 2 matches vs Belgium and we scored 2. We know how to defend against better oppposition and this is something Bosnia can definately not do. It is my humble opinion that Greece has better chances to qualify via play offs no matter the opponent , than Bosnia does. Both slim but just for the record. The fact that we played Belgium face-to-face in both occasions (considering that in Brussels we were a man down from 60, as good a team can be playing against a side like Belgium with 10) while the Bosnians literally surrendered the match from the minute 20 honestly does not show a big mentality team and for that lone reason and only I refuse to believe they deserve it more than anyone. Another fact that I think we will both follow , a team with an offence like Ibisevic, Dzeko , Pjanic , Lulic. Proper wingers in decent Leagues, Killer strikers and maybe the best box to box there is, they re scoring too few goals compared to our weak offensive level. They re currently at 19 goals and we re at 11. based on the remaining games I expect our goal difference to be close to equall. I see no better team in Bosnia in this campaign. I did see a better team in 2014 one.

Oh please Bosnia lost to Cyprus and got smoked by Belgium the first game while Greece should have beat Belgium the first game down a man and were unlucky not to get a draw against Belgium the second game.. not sure what you've been watching..

another defencer for bosnia out - vrsajevic rs georgia drawing wales is not impossible. they already did that in cardiff, why couldn't draw them at home without bale? last time wales barely escaped from moldova with two late goals. i find a draw at this game as a quite possible result. after did anyone expect luxembourg to draw france? we're in a better position than it looked already a month ago.