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It's not even patience at this point. You can't say the words "rebuilding" and "3 year plan" and then act like you're surprised the team isn't competing for 1st place. You know what, I'm OK with the team being in 4th and 5th place right now. As long as there is a plan. The fact that Tudor is still here and not Arnesen goes to show the half ass nature of how this team is being run. I understand Savvidis payed off the debt, and good for him....but what good is it for you to pay off my mortgage, if you then come into my house and destroy everything and set it on fire? Also, people saying his signings didn't work out are full of s%$#! too. He's building a team from scratch...If you can find me a TD that can sign 10 young players and make them all studs, let me know...it's impossible. That's why its a 3 year plan. Loan out the guys who don't work out to smaller teams, and scout new guys for the next signing period. I'm just disgusted.

Tzabella is his mounee connection in the nightlife

I hope Arnesen gives an explanation to the press in his country. We all know he likes to talk, so maybe we can get some insight on what the problem is over there in the back office.

the people aren't the problem, its the club, the fans, the media. PAOK could bring in Mourinho/Pep and the best tech.director in the world and we would still be what we are. Until there is a clear plan and it is stuck to thenv its gonna be the same song and dance every season. The squad isn't great but we have a good core of young players, we need to hold onto them and build. But you can never satisfy the "organwmeni" who have far too much power and say. PAOK needs to change but PAOK is simply a product of Greek football which allows this to happen.

The scumbag players, and guys in the front office tell the scumbag reporters what to say, who to target. The Scumbag reporters do that, and then they get the losers, the heroin addicts and the unemplyed busy bodies all fired up and they show up to the stadium to talk. Imagine if 200 fans showed up to Gilette Stadium to talk to the Patriots owners about not having a Wide Reciever.... First of all, they wouldn't get past security...second of all the owner wouldn't waste his time. If I was Savvidis I would make an announcement "I do not answer to you. If you'd like I can take out $20 Million in loans against the team, and drop this steaming pile of s%$#! in your laps you ungrateful pricks" and drop the mic...

I think we have several members here who are Barca fans, so we should have our own thread if you like. Otherwise I'll delete/lock this thread if there's no interest or you think we should keep one thread for all La Liga topics.

pateras was forced out by tzigger who couldnt handle pateras got all the accolades for our double in one yr pateras got us the fifty fifty says allot thst now doesnt it? tzigger was given a toy and couldnt give 2 rats asses about it

It's 0-0 at half-time between Benfica and Zenit in the UCL 1st leg Round of 16 match with Mitroglou & Samaris both starting.

Well I was off by few months.

When the organized fans came the first time I would have told them "Go find another team. You are not PAOK. You are cancer to PAOK, and I am the ChemoTherap.....now here is 10 Kilo's of heroin....go overdose in a park somewhere, gia na isixasoume......"

Savvidis for the past four years takes one step forward and then six month later two steps back. I am now convinced that PAOK will always be stuck in the "village" mentality. When people like Kolkas and the organized fans are able to influence the team decisions, there is no future.

Well, Arnesen is gone. Ntropi se mas. And I mean that even if he left on his own, or if we got rid of him. Let's keep worrying about Olympiakos, and complaining about referees, and Marinakis heroin empire....that'll fix everything.

I would find it bizarre that Arnesen would leave but the coach would stay. Especially since our last TD kept at it literally for years.

Hope he doesn't leave. He's the only one I trust in this club

^^^that's what i want to know now that alafouzo is in charge ;)...why hasn't the giannakopoulos bros stepped up.. why hasn't pateras returned?? where have the rest gone????

It really did hurt them. They put so much effort into protecting their paper streak, just to have it broken by AEK. Can you imagine how that sits in the heads of the fanatic sheep fans? Theodoridi is losing sleep ahahaha. One of my friends brought flowers and chocolates to the AEK fan club saturday. He said " tha tous gamhsoume pou tha tous gamhsoume, na mh tous paroume kai sokolates gia tou agiou valentinou?" That is why Mr. Kasami, we are AEK and you are not. Because we are AEKARES and gentlemen hahaha :P

Alafouzos is a D' Ethiki team caretaker!

This guy is in tremendous form right now. Would love to see him and mitro paired up for the ethniki

By the way, I opened the match topic and we won again. I'm taking control of the situation and naming myself the permanant match day topic starter after last weeks loss.

Here are the 2 goals boys

Kostas Mitroglou scored the opening goal for Benfica overnight in the Portugese Primeira Liga Classico against FC Porto & could of easy had another one or two more if it had not been for man of the match Iker Casillas making save after save for FC Porto whom came from behind to win 1-2. Mitroglou now has 13 League goals from 21 appearances so far this season & few more from the Cup & UCL matches.