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In the GSL whether you come 2nd or 5th it's the same thing. When was the last time that the team that finished 2nd (post play-offs) got through to the CL ? The opponents to get through to the CL Group Stage, are too strong. If PAOK tried 10 years in a row, they'd get through once, with a truck load of luck. Their best chance was against a very weak Schalke and PAOK couldn't beat them. My point being, if you're going to spend, you have to spend big, and go for the title or not at all. There is no point spending 5 or 10 million, and you're still 2 classes behind Olympiakos. Financially, it makes no sense. And now that direct qualification is going to disappear even for the title winner, it makes even less sense. If Savvidis was to going to spend big on a squad, and by that I mean 3 years of 10+ million in transfers he should've have done it when he came in 3 years ago. Now that Greece's coefficient has dropped so low, forget it, it's too late. Having said that I still don't believe there is anything we could offer Natkho to come. As for the midfield, yes, it's lacking in quality but it is what it is. There is no simple fix I can see right now. I've said this before many times, the class of player required, would not come to PAOK. We have to "make" such a player(s).

Perhaps Greece could test your theory by violating Turkish airspace, besides in an earlier post you blamed Greece for sitting on their hands allowing Turkey's violations. I doubt an international court would be required, the less useful nation would be told in no uncertain terms what the outcome would be, and in this case we know who that is. You don't need to be smart to be an elected Greek politician(just lie well), Tsiparas is living proof, besides elections in Greece are meaningless as are referendums, why vote when those you are electing are not contractually obliged to do what they profess? Again Tsiparas is living proof, doesn't say much about voters really does it. The point I was attempting to make is the hypocrisy in NATO and how it takes the moral high ground I find reprehensible. Quick question, if 2 years ago(before anyone had heard of ISIS) parliament hadn't blocked Cameron's attempts to bomb Syria, what would Syria look like today? My guess would be it would be another failed state like Libya. Remember the guys we were itching to assist 2 years ago those anti Assad forces have spawned into ISIS, Cameron wanted 'our boys' to fight alongside them. Fast forward a couple of years UK France and the US are itching to bomb again, this time ISIS, but you can bet the real target is Assad, they want him out at all costs while they prop up other despotic regimes.

I am a simple man, simpleton according to my wife, who cannot keep in his mind two incompatible ideas. Such as receiving a like and the advice to not write what earned me the like! I was told that sometimes the true meaning of what was expressed may be the opposite of the literal interpretation of the utterance. But this does not help any. When I must choose between two incompatible statements, how can distinguish among ?#1 is false?, ?#2 is false?, and ?both #1 and #2 are false?? Whatever, our national poet stated that

Natcho was here essentially because he wanted to rid himself of Rubin Kazan. He wanted to become available for a move to a better league, for free, preferably with CL play already guaranteed. While he did end up back in Russia, it cost CSKA nothing to get him, and he got what he really wanted. That said, I'd take him back in a heartbeat. One of the few times I've seen a "slow" player have so immediate an impact in Greece. Let's not forget his inclusion immediately pushed Tziolis off onto the bench (and then off to Turkey). Win-win, really.

Ohhhhhhhh so the police gave the OK for the game to continue but when Papas Did not get reassurance for another flare not to fall into the pitch he decided to cancel tha game. Viva scumbags!!

Me too. Kung Pao Chicken. :D

There is one big difference between the two incidents. PAOK was punished -15 points (3x5), monetary fine and fan ban for the incident. The happenings at Karaiskaki were not even mentioned by the ref in the official match report. It's these double standards that fuel fan violence.

^ will the league punish all transgressors equally? Nobody is trying to condone the violence... Quite the opposite. But to defeat it, you must first understand the root of all the unrest. If one team constantly gets slapped on the wrist, and the other gets the book slammed at it, it's only normal for a portion of the fanbase to lash out... (And let's for a moment pretend that this was not planned and anticipated by the apateona Savidi). What do you think of Gate 13 taking measures in its own hands and I.D.ing the firework culprits? Are they "Che-type revolutionaries"? Personally, I think they deserve to be there...

And the year before...

You guys really have to get over yourselves. Australian sheep now talking