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We have problems but this could've easily swung the other way. Those few minutes killed the players mentally, Very hard to recover from that.

Sutter should win Gold in the next Olympics for diving.. We're doing a GREAT job controlling the midfield! We had them pinned in their defensive zone for large periods of time. They look rattled at the back. Ninis is a maestro out there. And Kablaridis is a beast back there. Also, Pranic has made the left flank his bitch.. Great game by him so far.

Time for some war beats!!! B)

I think Varoufakis "problem" is that he genuinely believes in the idea of the EU. Run properly and fairly, the whole would be greater than the sum of the parts. And I think what he's trying to push for is for the powers that be that have influence in the EU, to see this. Unfortunately, they didn't like what he had to say and prefer to bury their heads in the sand. The idea of having a common currency in it's current form is almost farcical. The EU has been warned since the Euro came into existence that it can't work without fiscal transfers. That's how a currency works. The "government" collects the money via taxes and distribute with the idea of keeping things as balanced as possible. You never get perfect equilibrium, but the idea is to keep things as balanced as possible. If you didn't have fiscal transfers for example in the US, UK or Australia, certain states would see their standard of living drop quickly. In the EU, the concept of fiscal transfers is anathema. Instead, they want loans. Try doing that in the US, UK or Australia on a per state level and watch the mayhem that occurs. And it can't be a one shot fiscal transfer either. Some posters will be thinking to themselves, "but the EU has given money to Greece". Yes they did, but this is an on-going process. It doesn't stop. If you don't have fiscal transfers, you get ... what we see today. Countries on their knees with 25% unemployment, 50% youth unemployment. If the citizens and countries that make up the EU don't want to do this, if they find the idea ridiculous, then don't have a common currency. I'm actually pro common currency in theory, assuming it was run properly. But I don't believe it ever will be. So my preferred option is that somehow, in the least painful way possible, however that is, the whole thing gets dismantled. Or at the very least, Greece reverts to its own currency. The EU still have the stomach for the moment to support Greece for this 3rd bail out but will they have the stomach for a 4th ?

We need an owner who has deep pockets! That's all we need!

Ase mas Freezer old bud! We are plenty good enough for Europa! Enough of you mizeria p***** mou!! Mas ta exeis priksi... If you watched the 1st half, maybe you wouldn't be making such comments? We were unlucky to get a goal in the 1st half, and we parked the bus way too early in the 2nd...

Belgian curse continues. This team still has alot of maturing ahead.

When the defence let that pass happen at the

Best-looking-team of the 2 losing. This is football.

PAME MORH PANATHAAAAAAAAAA! TSITA TA GAZIA REEEEEEE! GLORY DAYS ARE HERE AGAIN!

PAAAAAAAAMMMMMME MORI AROSTIA!!

Pame Panatha!!

http://sputniknews.com/europe/20150803/1025343390.html Seems they want their pound of flesh, more privatisation more of Greece to be owned by creditors. These guys are insatiable they won't stop till they own it all, and in return we get a 'bailout' that will last for 3 years and the Greek people will have higher taxes, worse pensions and VAT hikes in return. What a great deal, we're on the road to recovery.

http://www.onsports.gr/Podosfairo/Super-League/item/495519-Panathinaikos-Filiko-me-Sosiedad-stis-12-Aygoystoy next week a friendly organised with real sorciedad.

game dayyyyy!!...pumped!!! :box:

Yeah, I should have explained myself better. I still see a place for Salpi in the squad. But never as a starter. If you need a goal and want to throw another body forward, or even just to defend a lead, he still has a place. And I suppose he'd good for squad morale as well. Making him captain was a mistake as well as it implies he's a starter.

Salpi is a legend, for obvious reasons. And he should no longer be in the team, for obvious reasons. What's odd about Salpi is how he even got to be a forward in the first place. Technically, he's never been gifted. If I had a young Salpi, I'd have him in the middle of the park all day clocking up those miles, and taking advantage of his best attribute, his tenacity. Fetfatzidis better get his head out of his arse soon because he doesn't deserve to be anywhere near the NT. I don't care how technically brilliant he is with the ball at his feet. I know plenty of guys like that down at the local park who still have a semblance of "the skills" but could never make it past a certain level. The "kid" has basically warmed benches most of his career and now he's in nowhere land. If we include players like him in the NT, lord help us. * The above is just my opinion.

Yes, they currently have a watermark on their screen advising this.

Man u is man u, you have to respect them. Also too much money invested to see them bow out. Valencia have a great attacking side. Naturally you want to stay away from these sides. Leverkusen has a tough side and a clever coach, but we generally do well against the germans. There is sporting also, if i'm not mistaken. Anyway, i'll leave it at that because there is still work to be done. Return legs turn to surprise this time of the year because sides are become more ready ( a week can make a significant difference), not to mention determination for the trailing side, complacency for the leading side. We saw ajax stink it up at home after a good result away, dinamo score three away goals after a 1-1 draw at home, even apoel played with fire after looking comfortable. Expect the unexpected for tomorrow, hopefully for the better.

This is why i didn't mind drawing ajax. The dutch are simply too naive.

Freezer ok you want to talk football and you want to be well rounded and such...maybe posting a little more on their side bragging about their players would not be a bad idea especially when you have 30filopoulos and a few other ridiculed so often and harsly Sure this is not an opadiko site but this is still a Panathinaikos forum Euxaristoume

http://www.counterpunch.org/2015/08/03/greece-succombs-to-imperialist-banksterism/ the above is the best article i've read on Greece's financial state.