Evergreen Posted February 9, 2005 Share Posted February 9, 2005 Tzoff basically did what ever coach of Italy should take them to the final. He didn't win it though while he failed badly with Lazio. Trap did squat at Bayern. It was one of their worst periods under him. Maldini is jst an average coach who has not done anything worthwhile I can record. Trap had his time in the 80's With Juventus and Inter. Since 1988 when he won Inter's last scudetto he has done ditto. I just think you have a fetish with Italian coaches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
athinaios Posted February 9, 2005 Share Posted February 9, 2005 You know that we won't have a coach playing Seville in the first match? Even if this guy gets to Athens soon, he can't do much to prepare the team for the UEFA game.... Anyway, I didn't think, after the way we've been playing, that we had a chance to advance... this season is lost. Another thing that bothers me about this Sollid guy is that how come he can leave his team in the middle of their run??!!!!! Think about it! The team is not struggling, there are no problems between players/coach/management, and yet, this guy jumps ship because another team offers him more money! How would you like it he were with PAO, doing well, and left in the middle of everything to go to another team?!!!!!! Let's see this objectively, not because we want him to come to PAO now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadBoy13 Posted February 9, 2005 Share Posted February 9, 2005 You know that we won't have a coach playing Seville in the first match? Even if this guy gets to Athens soon, he can't do much to prepare the team for the UEFA game.... Anyway, I didn't think, after the way we've been playing, that we had a chance to advance... this season is lost. Another thing that bothers me about this Sollid guy is that how come he can leave his team in the middle of their run??!!!!! Think about it! The team is not struggling, there are no problems between players/coach/management, and yet, this guy jumps ship because another team offers him more money! How would you like it he were with PAO, doing well, and left in the middle of everything to go to another team?!!!!!! Let's see this objectively, not because we want him to come to PAO now. auto to teleutaio pou eipes me provlimatizei kai emena......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panos13 Posted February 9, 2005 Share Posted February 9, 2005 Don't worry about him leaving us mid season. 1- because nobody else would be stupid and desparate enough to want him :P and 2- he probably gets fired before he gets a chance to jump ship :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadBoy13 Posted February 10, 2005 Share Posted February 10, 2005 so, what the f*ck is going on with Solid?????? im totally confused...... lets stay with Filakouri........ we need somebody like Filakouri!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drakos13 Posted February 11, 2005 Share Posted February 11, 2005 out of curiosity, i have noticed that major greek sites etc reported skaznys firing and trond solid etc.....but on pao.gr i havent read a word...as if skazny is still there- and they have been updating it too. Same with English sources- uefa.com had nothing nor anything esle i had seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montoya040 Posted February 11, 2005 Share Posted February 11, 2005 if we are willing to give some money and time for a good succesfull coach why don't we get someone like the x-deportivo lacorunia coach xvier ioureta who is really a good coach 7 years with depor he has done a lot of stuff! an other thing i don't get is why everybody is bragging about the 4-3-3 system???? didn't scazni or santos (aek coach) tried that and our team prooved unable to perform??? panathinaikos does have two and only avaliable systems he can perform the 4-4-2 or the 5-4-1 because we are team that needs to have a solid defence in order to feel safe to attack and score. if you do not like the way pao is playing then change team and become osfp or aek fun. it is as simple as that because when you play in the chapions league against moster teams like chelsea real etc... you can't go on and attack them because they will destroy you. :nono: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drakos13 Posted February 11, 2005 Share Posted February 11, 2005 no we defintily didnt play the 4-3-3 under skazny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XXX-18T Posted February 11, 2005 Share Posted February 11, 2005 i think theres something fishy going on cos this article reports that Scazny was about to get fired and that Pao were targeting Trond http://skysports.planetfootball.com/list.a...l=Football_Home I think the deal is done but i have a feeling he wont come till the end of the season as Brugges wont release him I say we get Vazexa as interim coach :tup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montoya040 Posted February 11, 2005 Share Posted February 11, 2005 DRAKOS 13 YOU SAY WE DIDN'T PLAY 4-3-3 UNDER SKAZNI ? VOUTER/SCKACHEL KOSTADINOU HARALABIDIS/SAMARTEAN ANDRICH/MARICH GONZALES BASINAS ROUBAKI/MINCH GOUMAS/KYRIAKOS MORRIS/HENGISEN VINTRA GALINOVITS/HALKIAS/KOTSOLIS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadBoy13 Posted February 11, 2005 Share Posted February 11, 2005 for me 4-3-3 is with 3 strikers....... Gkekas, Pap, Mixalis! Thats all..........!!!!! ola ta alla ta akouo m@lakies......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kojak Posted February 11, 2005 Share Posted February 11, 2005 DRAKOS 13 YOU SAY WE DIDN'T PLAY 4-3-3 UNDER SKAZNI ? VOUTER/SCKACHEL KOSTADINOU HARALABIDIS/SAMARTEAN ANDRICH/MARICH GONZALES BASINAS ROUBAKI/MINCH GOUMAS/KYRIAKOS MORRIS/HENGISEN VINTRA GALINOVITS/HALKIAS/KOTSOLIS 4-3-3 is a system you can convert to a 4-5-1, in any game.However scasny whilst claiming he will use a 4-3-3 just disguised his love for the 4-5-1. You cant play attacking football, in a 4-5-1 formation, when you have 2 DMC's and wide players such as Svouras/Skacel/Maric (played there sometimes.)etc. Now that we signed wingers( whether they are good who knows for now!) maybe the new coach will play an actual 4-3-3 formation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GS1905 Posted February 11, 2005 Share Posted February 11, 2005 4-3-3 is a system you can convert to a 4-5-1, in any game. that is exactly right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOLLYWOOD Posted February 11, 2005 Share Posted February 11, 2005 http://www.ekathimerini.com/4dcgi/news/spo...date=10/02/2005 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kojak Posted February 11, 2005 Share Posted February 11, 2005 http://www.ekathimerini.com/4dcgi/news/spo...date=10/02/2005 its the same story written over and over and over again...their is no new news out there, just have to sit and wait just like we always do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montoya040 Posted February 11, 2005 Share Posted February 11, 2005 I AGREE 4-3-3 CAN BECOME 4-5-1 BUT CHECK OLD GAMES AND YOU WILL SEE PAO ALWAYS PLAYED ONE STABLE SYSTEM IN EACH GAME THE 4-4-2. SOME TIMES THE COACH WOULD CHANGE ONE CENTER FORWARD FOR AN EXTRA CENTRAL DEFENDER THAT WOULD TAKE THE LIBERO POSSITION. BY THE WAY I WANT TO PAY TRIBUTE TO OUR MOST INTELIGENT DEFENDER "RENE HENGRISEN" THE PAST YEARS EVER SINCE THE CRAZY GOOD TRIO OF"KALITZKI, OUZOUNIDI, KOLITSIDAKI" THAT TOOK US TO THE CHAPIONS LEAGUE SEMIS.. THE TWO MAJOR SYSTEMS WERE 4-4-2 AND FOR SOME DIFFICULT AWAY GAMES ESPECIALY IN CHAPIONS LEAGUE 5-4-1 WHY I SAY ALL THESE ? IT IS SO DAMN SIMPLE. AS LONG AS I REMEMBER PAO PLAY, IN ORDER FOR THEM TO WIN A GAME THEY HAVE TO FEEL SAFE IN THE BACK. AND WHEN I MEAN SAFE I MEAN SOLID DEFENCE, POSSESION OF BALL, ORGANIZED ATTACTS, GOOD SCORING AVERAGE FROM SET PLAYS, FINALY AND MOST IMPORTANTLY BALL IS PLAYED ON THE FLOOR WITH SHORT PASSES AND GOOD 2-1-2 PASSING. THATS IT PLAIN AND SIMPLE DO YOU THINK THAT SERGIO MARKARIAN WAS A MAGISIAN? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadBoy13 Posted February 11, 2005 Share Posted February 11, 2005 to sportime leei kati gia ton Xalilxotzits pou apolithike apo tin Pari......... what do you guys think about him?? I think hes suck........ look what he did to Pari..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batigol Posted February 11, 2005 Share Posted February 11, 2005 I think it would be a huge mistake to bring Halilhodzic to PAO. His reputation is one which is unwarranted in my opinion. He's overrated and wouldn't command the respect of the players. Athinaios brings up a very good point. For this guy to leave at this time of the year is somewhat worrisome. I think that is why there is a whole boatload of hesitation on Sollied's/Brugge's part to confirm this move. My feeling is that he'll wait until the end of the season if he's going to come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
athinaios Posted February 11, 2005 Share Posted February 11, 2005 I'd rather keep Fylakouris for now and not make a harried move... .This Haliitzodzic is not good for PAO. We can't afford another Shumscazni and waste time and the dreams of our fans. I think the season is over for us, as far titles... Get a CL spot for next season and wait another few weeks to find a coach. I'd even go for getting waiting until the end of the season to get a nice coach for the team. Because a bad choice will have us at the same point next year this time... and we'll be saying the same things then. I don't know, but I'm fed up with changing one crappy coach after another. If I'm not mistaken, PAO may hold a record for coach-changing in the last 10-20 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haverhillpao1 Posted February 11, 2005 Share Posted February 11, 2005 Gents, while we are discussing formations. I believe that PAO this past season should have been playing a 3-5-2 formation, because of the type of players that it had. A coach has to adapt to the style of players that are in the team in order for them to be succesfull. A 3-5-2 allows the team to play offensivelly and maintain their shape in the back. It allows for two defensive midfielders and a creative midfielder is allowed to roam with out worrying about his defensive duties. The outisde players are the ones that do the dirty work by defending wide and attack. While attacking you will have more than 2 players around the 18, which should create more oppurtunities for scoring. Remember it is the players that make the coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batigol Posted February 11, 2005 Share Posted February 11, 2005 I don't know, but I'm fed up with changing one crappy coach after another. If I'm not mistaken, PAO may hold a record for coach-changing in the last 10-20 years. Really? I thought Olympiakos would have held that illustrious title for the last 8 years or so. It couldn't be that bad... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallofsoccer88 Posted February 11, 2005 Share Posted February 11, 2005 I don't know, but I'm fed up with changing one crappy coach after another. If I'm not mistaken, PAO may hold a record for coach-changing in the last 10-20 years. I doubt that, it's probably some Brazilian team, that league is almost literal revolving door w/coaches :LOL: :ph34r: . Though at this rate the Greek League is slowly catching up :( <_< . With all of the uncertainity and stuff I've seen in the press...who actually is coaching PAO for this weekend's game (and the UEFA Cup game w/ Seville)?? People on this board are going w/ Fylakouris. I've never heard of him (granted I'm relatively new to following Greek Soccer and PAO). I assume he's some kind of assistant. Clarification would be greatly appreciated. :nw: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GS1905 Posted February 12, 2005 Share Posted February 12, 2005 guys, cool off! the coach changing record belongs to the beloved :LOL: Thrynos as they changed an unbelievable 18 coaches in 8 seasons, which makes 2.25 coaches p/year :LOL: :LOL: :LOL: :LOL: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adonis Posted February 12, 2005 Share Posted February 12, 2005 Fylakouris is an ex player of PAO and the coach of our youth team which is doing quite well at the moment. He will be in charge on the weekend. Not sure what will happen against Sevile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadBoy13 Posted February 12, 2005 Share Posted February 12, 2005 Fylakouris is an ex player of PAO and the coach of our youth team which is doing quite well at the moment. He will be in charge on the weekend. Not sure what will happen against Sevile. pao needs some ex pao player like Filakouri...... autoi oi paixtes exoun matosei gia tin fanela kai mporoun aneta na anevasoun tin psixologia tou kathe paixti...... o Filakouris apo auta pou diavazo mexri simera maresei etsi pos milaei stous paixtes... marese auto pou eipe "Thelo na sas koitao sta matia... kai na eimai yperifanos gia esas otan pao piso stous pitsirikous".... for me auto itan "korifeo"..... bravo re Toti thirio...... as koitaksoume oloi oti oi palioi paixtes pou einai proponites pane mia xara........ for example: Lemonis, Vlaxos, Anastopoulos, Rotsa, and some others that i cant remember right now...... o Filakouris ta paei excelent me tous mikrous..... oi pitsirikoi paizoun damn good ball!!! Its not bad idea to keep Filakouri...... I wanna see it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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