Dikefale11 Posted August 23, 2015 Posted August 23, 2015 Think this topic is needed now that the league has got under way so we can keep up to date on how our rivals and the rest of the league is doing. Questionable call today in Olympiakos' (surprise surprise) first goal today in their 3-0 win over Panionios. Durmaz took the ball down on his chest using his arms which is the most blatant, then Fortounis appears, but not as clearly to use the top half of his right arm to take down the ball. 2nd one is hit or miss to the referee but the first one is without a shadow of a doubt a hand(s) ball. On another note PAOK drew 0-0 at home to Xanthi which is good for us that they dropped points, at home, already. Panathinaikos playing tomorrow away to Panaitolikos.
Original 21 Posted August 23, 2015 Posted August 23, 2015 (edited) Durmaz may have used his hands looks like but it's tough to tell, Fortounis did not. All rivalry stuff aside, it was a great goal by Fortounis. PAOK is not a good team this year and I think they will battle Atromitos for the 5th spot most of the year. It will be interesting to see how Panathinaikos does tomorrow, they are in bad form and Agrinio is one of the toughest places to play in and Panaitolikos has a solid team. Edited August 23, 2015 by Original 21
Dikefale11 Posted August 23, 2015 Author Posted August 23, 2015 Durmaz 100% used his hands you can see when it hits his chest then bounces off his arms as it rolls down, Fortounis like I said is hit or miss, it was a good goal none the less and will give him the benefit of the doubt, Durmaz shouldn't have had the chance to put the cross in in the first place however.
Original Sydney Posted August 24, 2015 Posted August 24, 2015 The last replay from behind Fortounis shows a better view of the use of a hand. The others are questionable. Oly looked good going forward their defence seems a worry. If you go by 1st round matches, AEK can match it with them in a title race, but it is still very early days. 1
Dikefale11 Posted August 24, 2015 Author Posted August 24, 2015 (edited) Durmaz 100% handles the ball. Just funny how its the first goal of the new season is all :lol: Edited August 24, 2015 by Dikefale11
Dikefale11 Posted August 24, 2015 Author Posted August 24, 2015 There always was, they just dont want to admit it. This is nothing about Olympiakos - AEK, or that we are being biased or desperate, just general football talk about a hand(s) ball in a goal, nothing wrong with admitting the truth which is very clear to see, nobody will think any less of you lol
Dikefale11 Posted August 24, 2015 Author Posted August 24, 2015 Nobody is praying, it happened, your in denial. You are the only one saying it didnt happen. 1
Dikefale11 Posted August 24, 2015 Author Posted August 24, 2015 Guy I dont know what your jibber jabbering about but I can assure you that no information is going in :lol: Reason I wont apologize? Apologize for what? Stating the obvious?....There is video evidence which you posted in "HD", take of your red glasses and have a serious look at the ball land on Durmaz' arms after he took it down with his chest. Like I already stated this has nothing to do with Olympiakos vs AEK, its general football talk, Durmaz used his arms to control the ball, simple as that, telia ke pavla. So you watched a game with PAO and AEK fans in a baraki, and they didnt think it was a hand ball? Thats a great way to back up a point :huh: You can keep denying it as long as you like, the fact of the matter is its going to happen again, and again, aaaand again, throught the season just like every other for the last 20 years. I'll wait for you to come back with your tail in-between your legs B)
Dikefale11 Posted August 24, 2015 Author Posted August 24, 2015 (edited) Now your just repeating yourself.........back to your cellar boy. Edited August 24, 2015 by Dikefale11
Dikefale11 Posted August 24, 2015 Author Posted August 24, 2015 Well you have to have to visited Greece to get it. Whats that got to do with you using the fact that you watched the match with PAO and AEK fans to prove your point that there was no hand ball ( :lol: ) got to do with having to have visited Greece?, which Is where I was born FYI....speaking of which, are you even Greek? :D
Original Sydney Posted August 25, 2015 Posted August 25, 2015 Reaper if you are going to quote me then don't only look at the Durmaz one as I did say that Fortounis did use a hand in his goal.
Original Sydney Posted August 25, 2015 Posted August 25, 2015 jvc is we going to talk about last season then we may aswell add the goal against us in the kypello which was a clear hand and our keeper yelled it out as soon as it touched him so that would make it interesting to his comment above of "panionios players saw no handball" yet our keeper did. Anyway no use of going on about sh*t from last season.
Original Sydney Posted August 25, 2015 Posted August 25, 2015 hahahahahaha jvc put me down for $2 dollars re, I will be happy to $2 million
Bananas Posted August 25, 2015 Posted August 25, 2015 Just saw the 1st goal. 100% hand ball. What makes it silly is that the referee had a superb view of it. Who chests a ball with their arms pointing forwards like that ? Like he's trying to trap the ball. It's football, not basketball. What makes this even more farcical, is that the ball hits his left arm first, then his chest, then his other arm. Arxisame me tis m*****es. 1
Original Sydney Posted August 25, 2015 Posted August 25, 2015 Bananas we must all have eye sight issues then except Oly fans
Bananas Posted August 25, 2015 Posted August 25, 2015 PAOK is not a good team this year and I think they will battle Atromitos for the 5th spot most of the year. PAOK is an unknown quantity this year and are rebuilding. The starters in the 11 this week that also played last season were Tzevallas, Vitor, Costa and Mak. Everyone else is either a new transfer or a kid come back from loan. Having said that, I expect PAOK to be completely out of the title race by around round 10, if not earlier. They still have much work to do to integrate all these new signings.
Bananas Posted August 25, 2015 Posted August 25, 2015 Bananas we must all have eye sight issues then except Oly fans The thing that is really really really stupid with Olympiakos is that they don't need help from the referees. They would probably win the league even if referee decisions went say 40-60 against them. They don't need to do this crap. They sully their own name. Marinakis wants his cake and to eat it too. I just realised that's pretty funny, lol. It's like he can't handle the pressure of winning the league on fair terms, which I believe they would do anyway. It's just that it seems he wants to win it comfortably, because his heart can't take the pressure of not winning the league with 6 rounds to go. Too many bougatses will do that. Has their been any admission of a mistake from the referee ? That would at least be fair of him to admit an error was made. I could accept it. Then again, he did have a great unobstructed view.
Original Sydney Posted August 25, 2015 Posted August 25, 2015 He cant handle competition that's the true view. Look at PAO and how close they came last season once they beat them in Leoforo, he told his mates at EPO to dock them 3 points and that killed off PAO's hopes. Look at how hard he is trying to bring down AEK now with this OPAP sh*t. He is a dog always has been and always will be fat c*nt. Hope he chokes on his next bougatsa, scums like this don't belong in football, they are a cancer. My own cousin has said he doesn't go to games any more because of him and his ways of fixing matches, when you own fans say this then you know something is not right.
Bananas Posted August 25, 2015 Posted August 25, 2015 (edited) This is kind of what the hand ball looked like. Edited August 25, 2015 by Bananas 1
Dikefale11 Posted August 25, 2015 Author Posted August 25, 2015 After all that has been said, that is the only thing you have to say? :lol: Go back to the oly forum where you and Doxa can talk among one another and stop embarrassing yourself boy. 1
Akritis_1944 Posted August 25, 2015 Posted August 25, 2015 Please AEK fans don't turn in to some of the PAO fans with the whining and conspiracy theories. Be more like the PAOK posters. Doxa and Reaper offer an alternate perspective. No need to cause arguments. 2
Doxa Posted August 25, 2015 Posted August 25, 2015 Besides, im certain there will be some legit things to get pissed off at during the season, Panionios had nothing in that match In every league there is complaining about decicions of referees every weekend, even the big leagues. Some PAO members on this forum over exaggerate everything to hide the failing transferpoliciy of their own club. I also wish we could get along just like PAOK and some AEK fans here. PAOK showed last season you can actually beat us with better morale and team. Problem is squads not big enough for the long season with 3 competitions to compete in.
Bananas Posted August 25, 2015 Posted August 25, 2015 Most footballers in the world who play football where there is gravity: A sample size of 3 from the brains trust, all irrelevant. Because in those 3 pics, the players actually chest the ball with technique, and critically, the ball hits the chest. As for Durmaz, the ball hit parts of his body, but the chest was not one of them. Have you no eyes to see with ? The ball smacks him in the face, then comes off his biceps. You should write a thesis, "How to chest the ball - By Reaper the Moderator". Step 1, use face to control ball ...
Bananas Posted August 25, 2015 Posted August 25, 2015 Nope didn't see it 'bounce' off his biceps. You stated who puts out there arms to control a ball on their chest. The answer is the majority of footballers. If you watch football - a sample size of over 3 games a year - it is not a strange thing to see. Well, I don't know what to tell you then. I'm going to make an appointment with an optometrist tomorrow. Better nip this in the bud. Can't have my eye sight going on me. I need it to read quality posts on this forum. And for the record, I watch 4 games a year, not 3. Sheez!
Nikitas Posted August 25, 2015 Posted August 25, 2015 what i think i see is that via durmaz his chest it touches his upper rightarm , but to hard to see from the side. i doubt that fortounis made a handball there.
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